Get used to it, SUVs are inevitable.
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Never! You can take my roadster from my cold, dead hands. (Cause I'll probably get run over by an SUV driver who didn't see me.)
Wait... this isn't loss.
public transportation time ¯_(⊙_ʖ⊙)_/¯
As a former owner of a Mitsubishi 1996 Eclipse GS-T and 1997 GSX...it died for me when they did the weird model with the indented lines on the side.
I modded the crap out of the first 2 gens. This is sad.
They got Mustanged!
1993 eagle talon tsi, ‘nuff said…
I loved my ‘96 ESi. I ended up getting Hahn Racecraft’s stage 2 kit for it but the head gasket ended up going. Stupid weak head gasket in the 420a.
Those 2nd DSMs are beauty, but the first gens also have a really good look as well. There’s one for sale up the road from me and I’ve thought about asking about it.
My mate had a BEAUTIFUL eagle talon with a giant stylized eagle on the hood. Until the engine exploded.
It’s sad that we probably will never see Mitsubishi make “VR-4” vehicles again. I’d love to see a modern version of the galant and 3000gt on a shared platform. Japanese muscle was really cool.
The VR4 with all wheel drive, all wheel steering, and a hardtop convertible was YEARS ahead of it's time. They threw pearls before swine.
What’s the Toyota Z4 doing in this comic?
Oh no I'm sorry car make collaborations bother you.
It's a rebadge.... it's not a damn collaboration. The Mark iv was a collaboration with a bunch of companies...this is a damn BMW, looks good but it's a BMW.
No, it's a full on collab. The bits that are BMW are the interior, drivetrain and the chassis. The body, suspension, and engine tune are all Toyota. Very different cars, even if they share a mom.
Also Toyota gave BMW's engine the Toyota look-over and told BMW how to make the engine more reliable to Toyota's standards, so we get better BMW engines out of that.
No it's not lol the entire car is BMW, Toyota put a body kit on the z4 and called it a day. Saying they put different suspension and engine tune is hilarious... I didn't BPU+ my supras and say I collaborated with Toyota lol
The B series has been around for a long time, Toyota didn't do shit to the z4 version, that info is from some bullshit that some of the car mags came up with to help hype the car. A lot of us who are OG owners didn't buy the MKV because Toyota didn't do shit for it, it was a huge letdown to the majority of us.
Don't get me wrong it's a nice looking car, but it's not going to live up to its name. Toyota should have pulled a Nissan and went over the top like they did with the GTR, which took the R series bar and raised it to mythical status. Toyota had the cash and the ability, but opted to just rebadge a pre build. They built the damn LFA, they could have even spit something out that was 10% LFA and it would have been amazing.
1: Germany has strict laws about "slap a badge and call it a day", mainly, you aren't allowed to do that. A good percentage of the car has to be unique. That's why the Z4 and the Supra have different bodies and suspension - which going from a convertible to a hard top drastically changes how a car behaves. 2: Car mags nothing, the Toyota lead engineer that worked on the project, as well as video documentation, says otherwise. 3: You didn't get a Mk.5 anyway, so do you know the difference? Or did you roll in a Z4 and assume it's the same? Can you tell me how they "felt the same"? Is it just the BMW active diff wiggle under power? Or are there other tells?
1: Germany has strict laws about "slap a badge and call it a day", mainly, you aren't allowed to do that.
The fuck are you taking about, no they do not. All manufacturers do this:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_badge-engineered_vehicles
A good percentage of the car has to be unique. That's why the Z4 and the Supra have different bodies and suspension - which going from a convertible to a hard top drastically changes how a car behaves.
Cool, no one said they weren't setup different. It's still a z4 hardtop which BMW built. That's why the Toyota techs had to be trained with BMW and they order parts from bmw...
2: Car mags nothing, the Toyota lead engineer that worked on the project, as well as video documentation, says otherwise.
It's called marketing, they didn't magically do shit to that motor, it's still a B series.
3: You didn't get a Mk.5 anyway, so do you know the difference?
Yea, it's still a BMW. I don't know why you're so upset about this.
Or did you roll in a Z4 and assume it's the same? Can you tell me how they "felt the same"? Is it just the BMW active diff wiggle under power? Or are there other tells?
How it drives vs what and who designed it are two different things. You're basically trying to say "if your point held any truth, then all BMWs would handle the same". That's not what anyone is saying. It's built by BMW, using BMW parts, from a car they already had. It's a hardtop z4, with a Toyota badge and nothing will change this.
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