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It's funny because the idea we should have to release our medical info for any reason is pure ableism.
Just like felons should be allowed to vote and run for office.
Integrity means having consistent values, even if it may benefit someone you dislike.
This has been tried many times before unfortunately. He's not going to release his medical information. The fact that it would have his actual height alone is enough reason for the narcissist to literally die before letting it come out.
So much of the authoritarian strong man mystique is the projection of strength and virility. One of the few things that could actually weaken his control over his supporters would be a medical report saying he's an average height male that is almost 80 and in below average health.
If that somehow came out without his permission, he, his campaign, and his most loyal operatives would invest tremendous effort in burying, denying, and obfuscating those facts. His followers would latch onto anything that would allow them to comfortably deny that.
Beyond the strong man thing, there is also an entire cohort of aging, white boomer men that have created a belief in their own worth, health, vitality, and importance through "seeing themselves" in Trump. He has become a central, dominant element of their personal identity and self image. If something made Trump's age, mental incompetence, and frailty undeniable, that entire cohort would have a complete mental and emotional breakdown. They would realize they're old, no longer central in culture, facing death, and have left a trail of wreckage where their friends and family used to be.
I'm not exaggerating when I say, I think there would be a dramatic increase in geriatric suicides.
Would they settle for a letter from a weirdo saying he's the bigliest, healthliest man to ever president?
That's sort of what he did while president. But Trump's pill slinger, who was likely Trump's contact to the Oath Keepers, got himself elected to Congress. And boy has he been a shitbag ever since. Not that he wasn't a shitbag before as well.
But sure, there's probably another Doctor Nick level jackass out there who will vouch for Trump.
The first letter while he was running was written by a weirdo hippy looking guy who has died since if I recall correctly. But yes, he'll get another flunkey to write something I'm sure. (If he does anything, this time he seems to know nobody voting for him cares about anything.)
Yeah, can’t wait to see what STDs the orange man has.
You even heard of Pokémon?
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Trump will just call it fake news and then say his doctors said he is the best health anyone has ever seen
And they'll believe it because it's a cult
his medical records are under audit
The FDA can’t believe what they’re seeing. They say mister President, we’ve never seen anything as great as your health all over. We need to study this to help America!
Probably more like "How is this man even alive?"
The Harris campaign just released this in response to his visit to Detroit. It's awesome.
Nice. They released a video of Trump trying to back out of the debate with her with clucking chicken noises. And suddenly he agreed to the debate. And then he was trolled during the debate and went nuts. And people here say trolling him has no effect.
You could release a doctor's report saying Trump is going to die in 6 months and his plan is to install an unelected leader when he dies and his supporters would just cheer it
If he only needed his supporters to win, he would have won in 2020. I have no idea why people aren't aware of that now.
People voted against however things were because of the pandemic. Trump was in charge, so he caught the general dissatfication with everything.
Now the sting of inflation last year likely has a lot of those same people again upset at how things are and vote for change again, whoever it will be.
Also, 2020 was the most accessible election in history, with so much flexibility for remote voting and so many people not stuck at work unable to find time to vote. The gop has been changing that, locking down absentee voting more, successfully getting voting id laws passed, and reducing early voting sites and hours. People are too busy working at their workplace again, and access to voting is reduced.
Ok? He still needs more than just his supporters to win. If you think his win is inevitable and people shouldn't bother voting, just say so. Otherwise, what is your point?
You do understand the election is a toss-up, don't you?
Yes? Because many of those people are willing to vote for him because they always vote Republican, not because they like him. And they're being shaved off bit by bit. Pointing and laughing has been a help. The whole "weird" thing is infuriating them.
He needs more than his supporters to win, the election is a toss-up, and his supporters are dumping him.
...are you going to tell me he's shifting left, because that would be ludicrous, but seems to be the only way to draw a coherent thread out of what you're saying?
No? I'm telling you that he can't win with just his supporters. Are you suggesting he's definitely going to win and no one should bother voting for Harris? What is the point of this discussion if you aren't?
Are you suggesting he's definitely going to win and no one should bother voting for Harris?
Let's see...
You do understand the election is a toss-up, don't you?
Guess not.
I understand you said he can't win with just his supporters - you also said he's losing those supporters. Putting aside the fact that people voting for him are definitionally supporters, you understand that those 2 statements clearly imply that there's no need to vote for Harris, right?
My point is that you're all over the place with your talking points - there doesn't seem to be any way to thread them together.
I did not say he was losing supporters.
This is what I said:
many of those people are willing to vote for him because they always vote Republican, not because they like him. And they’re being shaved off bit by bit.
I have no idea why you're lying when the comment chain is right there.
And they’re being shaved off bit by bit.
Who is the "they" if not people that would vote for Trump, and what do you mean by "shaved off" if you don't mean they won't be voting for him?
This is the third time. What part of this is unclear to you?
many of those people are willing to vote for him because they always vote Republican, not because they like him.
Those are not his supporters. There's a difference between voting for someone and supporting them. I didn't support either Clinton or Biden. I voted for them because they weren't Trump.
Would it be fair to rephrase that as the people you've said he needs are abandoning him? What does that suggest about the need for people that oppose Trump to vote?
I don't know how you think lining up to vote for the head of the Republican party isn't supporting both the party and the head of the party, but that nonsensical position is beside the point.
No, it wouldn't be fair to change my words. But I can see why you would want to rather than acknowledge you didn't understand what I was saying.
In that case, I'll rephrase my question.
~~Would it be fair to rephrase that as~~ Should I take that to mean that the people you've said he needs are abandoning him? What does that suggest about the need for people that oppose Trump to vote?
My point the entire time is that what you're saying is nonsense. You're saying he's being abandoned by the people he needs - whether it's his supporters or non-supporters that will line up and support him by voting for him, and in response to me pointing out the election is a toss-up, you're accusing me of suggesting people don't need to turn out to vote and lying.
You see your flagrant hypocrisy and dishonesty here, don't you - or does the same deficiency that undermines your ability to understand the meaning of "support" similarly affect your reading comprehension and/or understanding of basic causality?
Nope. There would only be hypocrisy and dishonesty if I said he would definitely lose and so you shouldn't vote.
I said no such thing.
I didn't even say you said that. I asked you if that's what you meant. Then you got all upset and decided it was an accusation.
Oh - I see how it works.
Are you the kind of weasely, hypocritical liar that fails to understand commonly used words and basic causality while suggesting people are saying the opposite of very clear statements people have made with nothing that could possibly be interpreted as a contradiction, as you insist that obviously leading questions can't be interpreted as accusations?
That was easy - let's see how far this takes us...
Are you some kind of kiddy fiddler? An unrepentant moron? An obvious liar?
I'm just asking honest questions, you see. No implied accusations or anything. Don't get all upset - who would see that as an accusation?
Fuck me, this is asinine - your nonsense is laid bare at this point - I'm out.
As I said, I asked you a question and you decided it was an attack. Even after I let you know it wasn't. It wasn't a loaded question, I honestly wanted to know.
I'm not your enemy. I don't even know you.
But I'm guessing you'll decide this is another attack.
He won't or he'll release some fake bs. Nobody voting for Trump will care either way. It's still a good move because it's something that gets a headline and coverage that highlights a positive aspect of Harris.
Also might cause Trump to publicly obsess over it which certainly doesn’t help him in any way