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The driver installation has got a lot easier over time, still shit that you have to install a driver, still shit support for older cards. The open drivers they're building are too little too late for me. They didn't care about my slightly older GPU so I stopped buying their hardware. All AMD/Intel from here on in.
I would also opt for an AMD CPU... my 2 cents.
tbf on ubuntu i just need to click a button, and it works if i stay on xorg
I like to dunk on nvidia as much as anyone but really driver support has not been as much of a problem these last few years, other than Wayland it sort of just works for me
I finally switched to AMD after 3 years in Linux, and man I didn't even know I was suffering until I booted with AMD and didn't have to take care of several env variables and separate modules for hw acc
It just works
Exactly. I did have to install mesa-freeworld drivers to get steamvr to work but ever since it's been smooth sailing
Is it that bad? I have only experiences with AMD on garuda linux for reference and ot works mostly fine with the exception that audio occasionally stops working for one or two seckns during videos.
Everything is just off with Nvidia. Steam and discord flash black but the games work. Problem is when something does go wrong it's a headache
It's not at all this bad. Most distros either have the driver in their repos or a simple way of adding a repo that has it, after installing it, it usually just works.
It might potentially be this bad if you are installing from the NVIDIA webpage, but that is almost never the recommended option and I don't really see anyone with any Linux experience trying it these days (unless of course you are using a distro that doesn't have it in repos)
When I was much younger and much less experienced (last year) I tried installing AMD drivers directly from the website and have since learned my error. I just wish sites like the Jellyfin docs didn’t recommend that you try to install from the source and instead use your distro’s repos (or use a container).
Agreed. And then there is the combo of the most recent NVIDIA driver and Debian Kernel that doesn't work together. First time I actually had to downgrade a Kernel update though.
But I guess this could happen with every driver
I want to switch to AMD but I also game in windows occasionally and it seems like the opposite experience where AMD isn't as good in windows as nvidia is. Also right now the high end AMD cards aren't as compelling compared to what nvidia is offering so it makes it harder. Hopefully the 8000 series GPUs really come in at a good price and with good performance.
I game in both Linux and Windows with almost exclusively AMD cards (but one RTX 3090 I mostly use for ML work, but also for gaming sometimes, and one GTX 1650 Max-Q in a laptop), and the experience is basically the same between Nvidia and AMD with Windows. Driver updates are an awful process you have to go through every two or three months, and other than that, you don’t even notice a difference, day to day.
The only difference I’ve ever noticed is that I have different options for ray tracing and upscaling between the two. Some people say DLSS is better than FSR. I say they’re both shit and make your games look bad. As for ray tracing, yeah that’s better on Nvidia, hands down. Is it worth the price hike for a comparable Nvidia card? That’s up to you.
next week I'm finally going to get an AMD card and get rid of nvidia for good!
next week I’m finally going to get an AMD card and get rid of nvidia for good!
Replaced my 1080Ti with a 6700 XT when it was on sale. Couldn't be happier. All of my wake from suspend issues disappeared.
Also getting a 6700xt ! To replace my 2060 super
Also confirming the 6700 XT is a great card, replaced my 2080 with it - its been nice not dealing with Nvidia's weird issues.
I had way more issues with my r9 390 than I've had with my rtx 3060.
If you have a system with nVidia and you want to run Linux, just use Pop!_OS and call it a day.
How is it for dualbooting with Win11?
Currently on OpenSuse Leap(on a separate hdd) because many linux recommendation articles suggested that it had the best out of box support for Nvidia n secure boot.
But debian/ubuntu-based systems do have the advantage of being popular. More tutorials n packages readily available.
I think I've read that Ubuntu also supports nvidia drivers, but I had read that snap is polarising, with some people saying that it slows down the startup.
I don't dual boot so I cannot answer that question.
Pop!_OS is currently based on Ubuntu so most tutorials will apply.
Pop!_OS has a separate Nvidia iso with all the drivers baked in from the initial install.
Snap is supported but not the default. Installs are mainly done via deb and flatpak.
Funny enough, popos ships with version 475, which is ancient. You still want to upgrade to 525 if you want Vulkan 1.3 support; I.e for bottles gaming, which needs Vulkan 1.3
It updates to the latest immediately. I shut down my laptop (the one with nVidia) but I'm fairly certain the driver was 530+. I know it was 527 not so long ago. All you have to do is your regularly scheduled "sudo apt upgrade".
Sorry, I meant 545
Still using the same garbage nVidia drivers in PopOS as you would with any other distro.
They run them through QA at least and work directly with Nvidia to fix any issues they notice. They dont catch everything of course but its still good.
Yes, 100% agree. All I meant is that at least you don't have to fight the install.
Honestly the only time I've had issues with my Nvidia card on Endeavour have been when I tried Wayland
Still going full AMD for my next PC upgrade.
I’m just annoyed with my multiple monitors on X11 one of them supports 144hz but since the others are 60hz x11 forces 60hz on all monitors.
X11 does support multiple refresh rates. It's just that usually the compositor or window manager vsyncs every display, thus making everything refresh at the lowest refresh rate. Are you using KDE? If yes, place these variables in /etc/environment and reboot:
KWIN_X11_REFRESH_RATE=144000
KWIN_X11_NO_SYNC_TO_VBLANK=1
I have a 170hz for my main monitor and 60hz for my 2nd and it works, Just had to make sure my 170hz monitor was set to be my primary in the KDE display settings.
I think visually it might say the selected hz in my case 144. But I can tell that in practice it is not at 144. If I disable the other monitors only then does it actually go to 144. I’m not sure if I have a config issue, but I thought this was expected behavior from X11.
Think I also had to disable vsync globally. It was a while ago I had to set all that up so I've forgotten how to exactly.
Hmmm that might be the culprit, I will try that, thanks!
"No real issues, but I'll play it even safer next time."
I do want to switch to Wayland when I can.
Only reasons I went Nvidia is because I built this PC before I had any intention of running Linux and I had always had Nvidia cards before then.
From someone that was in the same pipeline and made the move, you won't regret it. I know it's early days for Wayland, but my experience on AMD and Intel has been very positive.
I gave up trying to my external monitor to work without completely lagging my computer because of the NVIDIA drivers. Took me an hour of fucking around to get it working, then as soon as I make it split screen or use the external only my os framerate drops to a choppy look.
Tty, what's that? You mean this blank screen?