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[–] [email protected] 13 points 5 days ago (9 children)

OK. I know I'm about to get blown the fuck up but... You will own nothing and be happy. But. Like. Unironically.

I really don't think most people want to manage thousands of music files on their computer. Or hundreds of movie files. Or thousands of picture files. Or hundreds of video game files.

There are definitely options for doing this, but people who go this route are usually tech elite nerds. Not your parents or grandparents. Not normies.

(I self-host Navidrome, Jellyfin, Immich, etc.)

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 days ago

Thank you California law!

[–] [email protected] 14 points 5 days ago (2 children)

It's a good job Gabe Newell has made gamers comfortable with not owning their games.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 days ago

This is solving the wrong problem entirely.

You do own games. They're products. They're mass-market goods, as surely as when they came on plastic rectangles or glass circles.

Being permitted to continue having things on your hard drive is not a service.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 5 days ago

Twitter is bad.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 5 days ago (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 38 points 5 days ago

Good Old Games Games

[–] [email protected] 16 points 5 days ago (1 children)

By now my GOG library has far exceeded my Steam library in size. I was surprised by how many games on my Steam wishlist are also on GOG.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 days ago

I would love to do that, but GoG does not have the better regional pricing that steam does.

[–] [email protected] 42 points 5 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 49 points 5 days ago (4 children)

If buying isn't owning then piracy isn't stealing.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 days ago

You know, I tried telling them this at Hertz, but they still called the cops on me! WTF! I gave them money, they gave me car. What's the problem officer?!?!?

[–] [email protected] 25 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Bad argument piracy has never been stealing

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 days ago (3 children)

If buying becomes owning, will people stop pirating?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 days ago (1 children)

If piracy was stealing I would do it even more

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 days ago

Stealing potential profits is no where near as fun as stealing actual profits

[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 days ago

People were more inclined to buy software when it was a one time purchase rather than a license subscription (for example Adobe).

[–] [email protected] 17 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Personally I think we should bring back physical games to PC. Imagine a cartridge like device that can effectively use external storage as swap memory (which copies to ram as needed), laptops and desktops can be built with this while other computers could use an adapter.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Or we could stop humoring companies that want to take people's money and pretend that's not a sale.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Absolutely, ideally we would absolish capitalism

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

It may surprise you to learn that selling goods and owning things is not the same as abolishing capitalism.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago (4 children)

Fundamentally you do not own anything under capitalism, how would you create ownership if capitalism always steers towards what makes the most profit?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 days ago (8 children)
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[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 days ago (1 children)

And hopefully it dosent require the original game drive to be plugged in all the time when you want to play

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 days ago (2 children)

The problem is how do you do that while preventing fraud?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 days ago

The same way you do it digitally: add a thin layer of DRM that gives you legal protection, but doesn't actually do much on a technical level. Check a license key from the game drive in the same way you'd check the key of software someone paid you for, then let the code run on their machine.

DRM itself isn't a very good way of protecting media. The functional protections are almost nonexistent due to the nature of it. If you want to let someone play/watch/read content, you can't also make it magically impossible for them to just take the code/video/text, and copy paste it somewhere else. The only thing DRM does is give you the legal right to invoke the state as a way of enforcing copyright law against anyone who 'pirates' your work.

Any fraud that could happen likely wouldn't be stopped no matter what they tried. (or rather, if they did nothing protection-wise)

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[–] [email protected] 43 points 6 days ago (3 children)

This is also the case for physical copies, and has been since software was first sold

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 days ago

That's a lie told by every new industry since the printing press. Books tried writing "by anonymously exchanging money for this mass-produced object, you've secretly entered into a contract that limits your" blah blah blah. Courts threw that shit out, one hundred years ago. Same thing happened for videos and music.

Only software emerged recently enough, and under enough corruption, to keep pretending that opening shrink-wrap was magically the same as ink-on-paper agreement to some negotiated tradeoff.

Moving to digital distribution changed nothing. These assholes would be the first to insist as much. They would agree, you own Factorio on Steam in exactly the same way you own SimCity on SNES. But anyone who points to the cartridge in your hands and insists "you don't own that" is being a fucking idiot.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 5 days ago

Yeah, if a game needs online activation it doesn't matter which medium you buy...

[–] [email protected] 31 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (2 children)

According to media lawyers, maybe. But when I have a CD of music, or a game cartridge, I can sell it to someone else. For money. Because it's my copy I'm selling. So, what the fuck are you talking about except ceding the point to corporate lawyers for no good reason?

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 6 days ago

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