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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

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Well before you were born, you were known to the algorithm.  You’ll realize that images of yourself are a kind of social currency.  An unobtrusive bracelet or smart watch tracks your performance. Kids often tell him AI-enabled technologies are … creepy. It tells you when you’re near In-N-Out. Later on you realize that you were the only real human in that entire room. Everybody else was AI. You might be able to rent out each of your fingernails as an ad for social media. The home will finally be what Le Corbusier imagined: a machine for living in. What is the plan for tomorrow? They know ahead of time, even before you do, that you’re thirsty. Perhaps it’s better to let the toilet or the mirror do the tracking continuously. Faraway loved ones can visit by digital double.

But by now, maybe the agent is no longer your friend.

Maybe, at last, it is you.

If you have a digital twin, we hope it’s not a deepfake. 

No thanks.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

And speaking of electronic ass-monitoring, I’m reminded of this gem from 10 years ago: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJklHwoYgBQ

So little has changed since then!

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (2 children)

she’s calling a“baby handler”—picture an exoskeleton crossed with a car seat. It’s a late-night soothing machine that rocks, supplies pre-pumped breast milk, and maybe offers a bidet-like “cleaning and drying situation.”For your children, perhaps, this is their first experience of being close to a machine.

Ah yes, famously the worst part of having children: touching them. Urgh. At least we can be pretty certain that this sort of thing will have no negative psychological impacts on babies and young children, who are famously disinterested in their parents, and neglect isn’t a thing!

Or, once the baby arrives, in nipple stickers that nursing parents could apply to track biofluid exchange. If the baby has trouble latching, maybe the sticker’s capacitive touch sensors could help the parent find a better position.

Do you know what the worst thing about breast feeding is? It is hard to monetise! Women just excrete milk! For free! Anyway, what if we could interpose a disposable data-harvesting device into the process, maybe on a subscription basis?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

Do you know what the worst thing about breast feeding is? It is hard to monetise! Women just excrete milk! For free! Anyway, what if we could interpose a disposable data-harvesting device into the process, maybe on a subscription basis?

Almost sociopathic enough to get hired by Nestle.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

i see no way to come up with this inane horseshit other than assuming that thousands of artificial wombs will be shipped in container next tuesday

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

Will the rectum monitor keep track of the duration of my nocturnal erections? I need to find out if I can hit 179 minutes to flex on 18-year olds.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (4 children)

I seriously wonder, do any of the folks with the "AR glasses to assist repair" thing ever actually repair anything, or do they get their ideas of how you repair stuff from computer games?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

Maybe the AR could keep track of all the small fucking screws so that I don't lose them...

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (3 children)

I repair anything I can and I think the AR assistance sounds awesome. Especially when its for something I've never tackled before... In fact for me personally, it sounds like its by far the best use case of AR

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

I think the fictional version sounds neat but I dread the actual version which will have ads floating around in my field of view.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

getting normal manuals detailed enough to be useful is hard enough, forget about manuals compatible with AR set of the month

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Exactly. It goes something like "remember when you were fixing a washing machine and you didn't know what some part was and there was no good guide for fixing it, no schematic, no nothing? Wouldn't it be awesome if 100x of the work that wasn't put into making documentation was not put into making VR overlays?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

Even assuming the manual is available, a video game HUD overlay will still only be of limited use when the thing I'm trying to fix is put together with biblically accurate tamper resistant screws that strip even if you manage to find the correct driver bit, plastic tabs you can spudge open exactly once before they snap off, unmeltable adhesives known to cause california in the state of Cancer, ribbon cables as thick as spider webs, firmware last updated two olympiads ago and whose latest version is bigger than the device's storage could ever fit anyway, a bootloader more tightly secured than any other software on the whole device, and components from a parallel universe made by companies that have never existed.

Also it will turn out that the AR repair manual is actually for a slightly different revision than you have and somehow everyone else on the internet has the more common variant.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

on paper it sounds great (as I’ve already alluded to in a previous comment). as always, the devil is in the details. and I’d bet cold hard money on this being oversold/overhyped bullshit, once again

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Isn't that one of the enterprise cases where it's actually been used?

Having schematics directly overlayed onto something I'm working on seems pretty helpful to me.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

I'm not sure it's actually being used, beyond C suite wanting something cool to happen and pretending it did happen.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Back when I was still on Reddit, I encountered a post saying that they are used in airplane maintenance. They might have specified that their experience was with the military or I might be misremembering that part.

I have no experience in this area and cannot vouch for the veracity of the claim, just wanted to let you know that I have seen something that supports your theory.

edit: Sentences make way more sense when you use the right word and not a completely incorrect one.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (3 children)

have you ever done any kind of fine-detail repair on anything? electronics, something with tiny screws, fixing paint on a decal.. anything like that?

minority report floating holograms sure might be useful for this, “random-ass non specialised hardware shoved on your face” is decidedly more of a diceroll

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

Well the OP talks about a fridge.

I think if anything it's even worse for tiny things with tiny screws.

What kind of floating hologram is there gonna be that's of any use, for something that has no schematic and the closest you have to a repair manual is some guy filming themselves taking apart some related product once?

It looks cool in a movie because it's a 20 second clip in which one connector gets plugged, and tens of person hours were spent on it by very talented people who know how to set up a scene that looks good and not just visually noisy.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

Yes?

Having shit clearly labeled would be helpful.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (3 children)

I think he means repairs like washing machines, cars etc. It's all very well looking up videos or pics of how to repair stuff, but often the video isn't clear or fine quality enough

An overlaid graphic on whatever you were repairing would be fucking amazing for some of the stuff I do

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

it would, but it's not clear how the same companies that make bad manuals now will make good AR overlays in the future

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

magic, obvies

(probably the same kind of magic that makes chatgpt work well)

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

but often the video isn’t clear or fine quality enough

Wouldn't it be great if 100x the effort that didn't go into making the video clear or fine quality enough, instead didn't go into making relevant flying, see-through overlay decals?

Ultimately the reason it looks cool is that you're comparing a situation of little effort being put into repair related documentation, to some movie scenario where 20 person-hours were spent making a 20-second repair fragment whereby 1 step of a repair is done.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (2 children)

yeah, tell me again how you're going to be fucking around the inside of a washing machine with a goddamn apple vision pro strapped to your face

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You realize it's a dev kit? The obvious end goal is to get tech to the point that you can wear them as glasses.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

Ah yes, Glasshole SDK, I’ve heard of that before

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

@froztbyte @Mr_Blott new Pornhub category just dropped

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

I assume it's the same dorks who say "ChatGPT is useful to summarize emails."

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

The future as predicted by people who are completely addicted to computers.

Yes officer this smart device idea right here:

If the baby has trouble latching, maybe the sticker’s capacitive touch sensors could help the parent find a better position.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

disrupting raising humans with bionic parenting

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Somehow bionic nipples weren't on my futurism bingo card.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

it's in the expansion pack dlc. gotta keep your horrors updated

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Ok don’t know why the AI companies are courting the hacked found footage toilet voyeur market but here we are, I guess

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

They need all the training data that they can get.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

Just think about the classification sweatshops that will be looking at diseased buttholes all day.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Futurism articles really make me feel how these people are not living in the same reality as I.

Looking from now into 2149 and war is a nonfactor in Baby's life. "Genocide" isn't mentioned once, or "fascism", or "borders". No food or water scarcity. No mention of what happens to insects or wildlife or people in island countries or near the Equator. The only mention of "ecosystem" is in the expression "Center for Advanced Computer-Human Ecosystems". The only mention of "climate change" is to say that it will lead us to a "reconfigurable architectural robotic space". Somehow people have all the energy in the world to power AI girlfriends and moveable robotic walls and menstruation-sensing tech panties. The human body, the animal that is the human being, doesn't really matter in this world where Microsoft VR smells your anxiety in your deathbed and comforts you with self-warming textiles. Where does the food that sustains the flesh comes from, what is our relationship to the plants and animals and insects and bacteria who we depend on for food and air and shelter, who builds all this stuff and under which conditions—considerations that do not even cross the mind to this person when they think of the question: "What the future holds for those born today".

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Found on metafilter, along with this excellent comment:

Learning will be increasingly self-­directed, says Liz Gerber, co-director of the Center for Human-Computer Interaction and Design at Northwestern University. The future classroom is “going to be hyper-­personalized.” AI tutors could help with one-on-one instruction or repetitive sports drills.

No it won't. Learning has been going to be "increasingly self-directed" since before I was born, but it turns out, in fact, that you need to have a certain amount of maturity and focus before "self-directed" means anything more than "goofing off as much as possible" or possibly, just possibly, "intense focus only on those things that interest me intensely". What will happen is that the children of the poor and the less-involved middle class will have shitty digital "tutors" in chaotic classrooms or goof off in isolation while the children of the rich are taught the old-fashioned way, by talented individual humans with only such technology as supports focused, human-centered learning. "Learning will be increasingly self-directed" will be used as a justification for treating everyone but the rich badly.

Furthermore, if people do have digital spy tutors looking over their shoulders, they will either be janky and kids will devote a lot of time to fooling them or they'll be creepy surveillance that will fuck the kids up, or probably both. At best, these will be simulations of people and kids will learn to have "relationships" with fake people that don't exist, don't think or judge and do not love them, and IT optimists will somehow spin this as great and helpful. (I suppose there is some possibility that we will create and enslave actual conscious AI, which will be a nightmare in its own way).

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

That is an excellent comment. The entire LLM industry is just, "how can we delete people's jobs even if the results are shittier?" And "how can we make people okay with this," to which the answer (for education) is describing it as "hyper-personalized."