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The first three paragraphs seemed fine but holy shit has this guy been radicalised. I honestly feel bad for these people who think they’re standing against facism when they’re just a different type of a facist
Ah yes, let's turn our children into terrorists. (At least that's what it sounds like to me)
Seriously though the teen years are when you are most malleable. You can teach someone to not feel sympathy for groups of people and to be ok doing terrible things.
You need to take the same advice as is in this image. Don't forget to touch grass.
Many are supporting the duopoly's funding of genocide of the Palestinian people due to Zionism's hold on our government and politicians, per AIPAC.
As we learn and grow, exposing ourselves to diverse ideas that we do not agree with, our world view changes as well, unless we construct our own echo chambers by self-censoring ourselves.
I think there is a big difference between critically thinking and propaganda. When you are young you are susceptible to all sorts of ideas.
Young or old, propaganda works on those of all ages; building up our critical thinking skills should be the goal for everyone.
Just looking at the current political tribalism, it is at an all-time high again.
Owner-class media (Main Stream Media or Legacy Media) trust is at an all-time low, while independent journalists are increasing their grassroots support.
Find yourself a way out.
I am good, but thanks for the offer.
Too good it seems.
Ah, I meant: "No. I'm good."^[[1] https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=I%27m%20Good]
And i meant that your "good" is a mental illness.
Ah, thanks for expanding on your meaning.
I disagree; all is well.
not everything is related to another conflict in the middle east dude, it wasn't even mentioned here. lol
also careful. "Zionism’s hold on our government and politicians, per AIPAC." is the same as alt-rights "Jews control the government" -- Not allowed per instance rules
Its funny how the self proclaimed communists are far right
I disagree; foreign policy has a lot to do with our country and what happens in other countries as well.
Zionism =/= Judaism
Many that are for censorship try to make it seem like it is, so continued support of genocide can continue, but we must not fall for their talking points. to make it seem like it is, so continued support of genocide can continue, but we must not fall for their talking points.
So you just go around randomly bring this up? It might be better to find a different hobby.
Do you support a two-state solution? If the answer is yes, then congratulations, you are inherently a zionist. If your answer is no, then I hope you're not advocating for violence, as that is disallowed.
Even Israel is against a two-state solution and a one-state solution.
Israel's goal has always been to remove all natives from Palestinian land.
This conflict has been ongoing for many decades, while continuing to escalate, ceasefire, and negotiations should be the goal, but it seems WWIII might be closer to happening than negotiations happening again.
I won't argue about which side wants what; it's a pointless discussion that won't get anywhere.
I can only warn you not to say anything related to alt-right hate speech, such as claiming that Jews control foreign governments. It's not allowed.
I can only warn you not to say anything related to alt-right hate speech, such as claiming that Jews control foreign governments. It’s not allowed.
I did not bring that up; you did.
Here ya go, an infograph: https://lemmy.world/post/19431152
Alright, I've warned you twice to stay on topic, and you're still ranting about this. Your propaganda post is also unsourced and comes from an extremist account that engages in doxxing.
He is probably a sock puppet from someone on lemmygrad.
That guy is a raging antisemite that marets his own hate videos on lemmy.
I disagree.
Again:
Zionism =/= Judaism
I don't need your "opinion" on facts. Stfu nazi.
They're not a nazi
He is. Wanting to destroy Israel ("Anti Zionism") is a inherited Nazi ideology.
Anti zionism is not a nazi ideology what the fuck. How is being against people being displaced and forced to live in inhumane conditions something a nazi thinks?
Doesn't matter, unfortunately.
Per instance rules, no calling people names.
Ok, next time i just repot such people.
I am closer to a Red than a Nazi.
Further clarification: Red being a communist.
Thanks for the reminder of this song:
Oi! band formed after a hard drinking afternoon in 1997. At that time there were only three members. It was Jerome Reuter ROME, on drums and vocals, Tom Luciani on guitar and Muck on bass. After playing gigs here and there in some pubs of Luxembourg, a first little recording was released, a demo-tape called Cider Lane 77, of which a limited amount of copies were sold. After Muck left the band in 1999, the line-up had to be changed.
The lyrics to The Skinflicks's song What I Am are a defiant statement of identity in the face of societal pressures to conform. The song emphasizes the importance of self-expression and the rejection of political ideologies that seek to control or manipulate individuals. The skinhead identity, according to the song, is about more than just fashion choices - it represents a rejection of both far-right and far-left political beliefs in favor of a distinct cultural identity.^[[1] https://sonichits.com/video/The_Skinflicks/What_I_Am]
Song: What I Am - The Skinflicks^[[2] https://youtu.be/5xSP0vBZAd0]
Lyrics^[[3] https://www.songlyrics.com/the-skinflicks/what-i-am-lyrics/]
Cuz I'm not a nazi, I'm not a red
I've had enough of your politics
I'm not a nazi, I'm not a red
For all I am is a ... Skinhead!
That's what I am, it's all I wanna be
That's what I am, it's all I wanna be
That's what I am, it's all I wanna be
There is Redfash, wich you seem to be. Mixed nazi ideology with "socialist" values.
Edit: format and added more sentences
Redfash
TIL.
I disagree with your labels again; you seem to just be using such labels so you can continue to ignore and dismiss anyone that does not think like you want them to.
Thankfully they'll grow out of this extremism.
Probably not as 14-18 is when you are most susceptible to beliefs. The brain is developing still and as it locks in the stuff around it. It becomes your core belief system.
Your brain doesn't lock itself as you get older. How else do you learn?
I just hope it's not a growing through pain experience.
A danger with a lot of these idealogical groups is the classic cult/abusive behavior of "love bombing", which can be especially effective with younger people trying to figure out themselves and where they "fit" in the world. Add all that to the lack of life experience causing that sort of behavior to not ring alarm bells and it's a potent recipe for learning things the hard way when it all comes crashing down.
Sidenote: Even if this was a kid publicly declaring healthy beliefs, I really don't get why the response isn't "Ok, cool. Moving on..."
This sort of "championing" of impressionable youths by strangers, in response to the youth simply saying they believe a certain thing, just gives me the skeevies. Doesn't feel genuine to me.
Nah, it's very cultist, ain't it