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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Don’t forget that if you connect external devices to them, they’re also taking snapshots of the content “so they can serve targeted ads”.

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[–] [email protected] 71 points 1 week ago

One way to get Congress to act on this would be to remind them of how Robert Bork's video rental history got released. They very quickly realized that they all had the same sleazy movies on their rental list and passed a law making it illegal to share them.

Call your Congressmen and tell them that their smart TV is sending screenshots of whatever they're watching back to home base, including stuff that's not streamed, and there might be swift action.

Better yet, hack Samsung and leak it to the press. That'll definitely light a fire under them.

[–] [email protected] 66 points 1 week ago (9 children)

I blocked my two TVs from phoning home via my pihole. They are the two noisiest devices on my network, by leaps and bounds.

On a day of heavy usage, my phone and desktop may get ~2000 blocked requests combined. That’s high, but not unheard of. It just means I did a lot of browsing, with a lot of blocked ad requests. My TVs average somewhere around 7500 blocked requests per day, on days that I haven’t even turned them on. That’s an attempt to phone home every ~12 seconds. And it is much worse on days that I actually use them.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Maybe i'm stupid, but why would a TV even do that? All it's know is what you're watching today, right? How is that information useful? If you're living with other people, the TV couldn't even know who's watching, that would make the data useless.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Knowing the distribution of what entire households watch is very useful. It's not about spying on you personally.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago

And what other devices are on the network, and what they're chattering about

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 week ago

Data mining. They know what you watch, when you don't and any other habits you have.

If you have a microphone on your remote or tv, then they also send that data over.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago

The non-capitalist solutions have been here all along, mostly things licensed under copyleft. But people just need to have the wherewithal to actually use these solutions.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I dumbedcmy smart tv by disconnected it from the internet. The stupid thing is the tv was requesting internet connection to work, so I had to put it on my network and then block everything so the tv pouted and then shut up.

Now I switch to a Fire tv usb stick on it but god I hate it..

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

the tv was requesting internet connection to work

What tv is that? Just so I know what to avoid

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I’m more than happy to buy a TV that uses post-purchase monetization, because I am never going to connect that fucker to the internet. It’s a display. I shall use it as a display. I do not care that it can replace my streaming box. I fully control my streaming box, and I will use that.

If I catch it doing any sketchy shit like trying to use unsecured/Comcast/etc WiFi to phone home, it’ll be time to pull out the screwdriver, though.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 week ago (5 children)

What happens when it no longer needs your WiFi and uses something like LoRa to phone home with your data and location? It may not know who you are exactly but it'll have a good guess.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago (2 children)

What happens when it no longer needs your WiFi and uses something like LoRa to phone home with your data and location? It may not know who you are exactly but it’ll have a good guess.

I mean....what happens when it becomes sentient, sprouts legs and you catch it sleeping with your spouse?

Let's deal with the here and now.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago

You know LoRa hardware is getting cheaper and the reliability of these TVs are just terrible. This is likely to happen sooner rather than later. For now just don't plug it in to WiFi unless you're willing to go further and desolder its module? I don't think we can do much via legislation other than write to our congressional reps.

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