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I'm pulling for Monday. Friday's already mostly a write-off.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

I'm lucky to have been able to experiment a bit with this as my work is flexible and I'm in a pretty good bargaining position. I also do a fair bit of unpaid work out of hours.

Having either Friday or Monday I've found to be little different. Having alternating Fridays and Mondays is pretty awesome, 4 days on, 2 off, 4 on, 4 off.

There's a lot to be said for a mid week day off too. I'm looking at moving to a new employer and hoping to go negotiate a 3 day week, maybe Mon-Tues-Thur for example which will be heaven if I can pull it off.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 2 months ago (4 children)

Neither. I'd remove Wednesdays.

Middle of the week off day lets you get all your errands done with little annoyance from or waiting behind the public, so you get everything knocked out and have your weekends 100% for you.

More importantly, on a 4 day workweek with Wed/Weekend off, you NEVER work more than two consecutive days. Ever. It's fantastic.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 months ago

Fuck that. Yeah it means you can stay out later Tuesday, but you can't do jack shit Wednesday knowing that Thursday is coming up. I'd rather have another Saturday than another Sunday if that makes sense.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

Fuck that I've done schedules like that before . . I'd much rather just take 3 days in a row. Able to rest so much more. Obviously personal preference though!

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 months ago

If everyone had Wednesday off you would need to contend with the public though.

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I used to work a compressed week and started taking Monday but eventually it moved to Friday. When I took Monday off I felt like I had to pay for it with the next four days, when I took Friday it was like I was being rewarded with an early weekend.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I love using Wednesdays to clear leave (I know, not the best day in terms of utility for holidays and stuff) as you essentially create a new Friday. Work is so much more bearable.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (2 children)

What’s clearing leave? Is that an American concept?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Yes, paid time off requests or advanced request to use leave (doctor appointment, or other) is typical for any planned absenced in the US.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

Sounds like a military thing? Not a normal US civilian worker phrase.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago (2 children)

If those 4 days also mean 12 hour days, than im not too sure if I'd want thay

I worked a couple 12 hour shifts before, and they left me even more miserably than work usually did

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 months ago (1 children)

That's not usually what is meant by proponents of the 4 day work week. Instead, they're usually referring to four 8-hour days.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

i see, well, because of where i live, id take monday than

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 2 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago

It's the smartest option.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 months ago (1 children)

UK majority of the bank holidays are on a Monday, so Fridays would be nice as otherwise you'd lose them and what would become long weekends now.

UK we are seeing a very slow shift to 4 day weeks for more privileged jobs, I work with two people who both have Fridays off as it's an actual thing you can apply for at my employer.

While the Tories stopped councils from offering 4 day weeks to employees, it's got to be coming back, further spreading its availability.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

I sincerely do not know as I'm currently unemployed to try and imagine a 4-day work week. I mean, it would be a good thing, more time to dedicate for things you like the most (such as a hobby and/or family and/or pets and/or entertainment and/or spirituality/beliefs/religion and/or education/courses). But it'd only work if there's any job. With the ongoing situation with AI replacement, profit-eagerness culture of businesses, I don't really have optimistic views on the future of employment, with or without 4-day work week.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

Those are the only two days you could have picked where it wouldn't make a difference. Either way you have 4 consecutive days of work followed by 3 free days.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Why in the world would you pick any other day?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I wouldn't be opposed to the idea of having wednesday intermission instead of a 3 day weekend.

But the proper thing to do would calculate which weekedays have the least amount of fixed holidays and then pick one of those.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Tuesday would immediately become the new Monday and everyone would get the Monday scaries. The start of a series of work days will always be a bummer, no matter what you call it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

We did four 10s at my last job, rotating every quarter whether you had off Monday or Friday. Personally I much preferred working the quieter Monday to the boring Friday. Tuesday became the new Monday as that’s when everyone was back in office. I didn’t feel the quiet Monday when you had half-ish the staff working was too bad, but the quiet Fridays really dragged. Quiet Monday was a nice ramp up to Tuesday, I got a lot of shit done on those Mondays.

I’d say there is a difference to which day you choose off. It doesn’t seem like there would be a difference but I definitely felt it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Ok, I wasn't considering a rotation where the workplace would be partially staffed Mondays and Fridays. That makes a lot of sense. I was imagining everyone having off Saturday-Mondthatn a more universal weekend, which I think would not be practical for getting things accomplished. In that case I see what you mean about Mondays.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

It was a hospital IT job so we couldn’t do everyone on the same schedule. My estimate would be 40% stayed on traditional M-F 8s, 30% on M-Th 10s, and 30% on Tu-F 10s. Quiet Monday was nice, quiet Friday really dragged, especially after lunch. I was way more productive working on Monday vs Friday.

The hybrid schedule worked pretty good for coverage, we also had staggered start times so there was always someone around M-F 6a-6p. Tuesday through Thursday was packed with meetings as that’s when you really had 100% of everyone working.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago

My bet is, it'll be Saturday that goes, finally achieving a 6-day work week.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (2 children)

As a teacher, how would this work for schools?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Different days off and more teachers than we have currently. The same people who view 5 day work weeks as an imposition as workers should be doing 6 or even 7 day weeks for the same pay as 5, view state schools as subsidised babysitting for their workers kids so schools would need to stay as 5 days rather than drop to 4

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I get the feeling certain jobs are going to be deemed too vital to move to a 4 day work week. Unless there are enough teachers to rotate shifts.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Unless there are enough teachers to rotate shifts.

There isn't enough to cover current shifts.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

I forgot to add a /s after that sentence. I know teachers are severely understaffed and underfunded. This 4 day workweek seems like it would be wonderful with the exception of the people deemed too vital not to work. Just like during covid, some people will have a better time being paid to stay home, and others will have to continue working for the same pay. The burden would certainly fall on teachers, doctors, nurses, construction workers, maintenance personnel, and any other job that has a short supply of workers and high demand. Before switching to this system, our society would need to consider how to handle this problem.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

Not totally relevant because I work 4-on-4-off, but I tell anyone who will listen to me say that the best, most wonderfullest, pry it from my cold fingers part is that I no longer care if it’s Monday. Ever. This is wonderful, even if my shifts fall on one. Because it’s Monday and it’s no longer special and has no power over me. I don’t think I’d have the same passion talking about Fridays.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Unless you do something special depending on the day (like going to church on Sundays), aren't the two options the same? They are both 4 up 3 down periods.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

Exactly! When I first read this post, I thought it was sarcasm. Firstly, the assumption that a 4 day work week is innevitable. And second, if we were gifted such a massive win, the loss of the dreaded "Monday" would not matter because it is just an arbitrary name. There will still be an end to the weekend and start to the week.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 months ago (1 children)

realistically, if we move to a four-day world week it won't be the same four days for everyone

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