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[–] [email protected] 74 points 9 months ago (16 children)

A non-amicably seceded Texas is doomed as a country. No food, drugs, or medical supplies from the rest of the country. No parts to repair their oil wells or vehicles (made by businesses in other states). Companies like John Deere would be forced to brick all equipment in Texas. Then the US government imposes sanctions on any country doing business with Texas, and businesses outside Texas are restricted from doing business in Texas. Nobody comes to their rescue when the power grid fails in an ice storm or a hurricane blows through the state.

Face it. States are too interdependent to cut ties with the rest of the country.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

I think if Texas does secede it will still have trade partners. I have a feeling it would ironically be Mexico and even China could mix in Russia in there too. Basically anyone who hates USA.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Why would Mexico trade with a seceded Texas? Would they want to end all commerce with the U.S.?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (3 children)

Radical isolationists having trade partners? LoL who? Mexico has far more reasons to hate TX alone than the remaining 49. They could basically write off Europe and the Middle East.

Ok yeah. Russia would be all over them. If they could bypass the US blockade.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago
[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Nation states don't hate each other. They have no feelings, only interests. If it's in Mexico's interest to trade with Texas, they will.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Radical isolationist Texans have no idea what makes a nation state besides hating other countries.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (6 children)

Brexit showed us that situation like this the 'bigger person' in the conflict will try not to starve millions of people to death and will not simply cut them off. We as individualise would surely like to see Brits/Texans suffer all the consequences but politicians are usually more pragmatic than this and have to think long term. Turning Texas into 3rd world country wouldn't do any good to anyone. Blocking supplies as some sort of collective punishment would simply be immoral.

Of course they are not going to secede but if they did they would still get all the supplies they need. Their economy would suffer greatly but they would just blame US and keep going.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

If you or anyone would like to see Brits or Texans 'suffer their consequences' for a minority of misinformed people deciding the future of their state, you need to get some empathy and perspective. Texans haven't voted for this, and 17 million people decided Brexit for a country of nearly 70 million.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

I just meant is a normal human reaction (I even said it would be immoral. Did you see that?). I understand that people like to see this as some sort or 'justice'. You keep telling Brits that it's a bad decision and it would hurt them and then voilà, they suffer the consequences. It just feels good to be right but of course if you think about it a little you realize it's a overall terrible thing and feel bad for all the misled people.

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[–] [email protected] 114 points 9 months ago (2 children)

As someone who is trapped down here with these lunatics... please send help...

[–] [email protected] 70 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I'm trapped here, too! While I'm not happy about the situation, I'm incredibly excited to see all of my old history teachers get shit on when Texans find out that:

  • While we CAN split into 5 states, we CANNOT form our own country without repercussions. The concept of Texas returning to its own country is not in any constitution nor agreement. While there is an agreement that we can become multiple states, it's redundant when compared to Article IV, Section 3 of the US freaking Constitution.

  • We're not the only state that was once it's own country. Hell, Hawaii was not only its own sovereign nation, it was a fucking kingdom. Other than being the biggest, dumbest, and drunkest, no part of our previous classification before joining the Union is special considering that Vermont was its own country 40% longer than we were.

  • As long as we're dispelling ignorant Texas myths, no we're not the only state who can fly their flag at the same height as the US flag. Literally any state can. They're called flag codes and they're insanely easy to find and read. You'll find that most self-avowed "patriots" tend to breach the most flag codes.

There's no such thing as "Texas pride" anymore. It's all been replaced with ignorance and disrespect. The last time we got drunk and punched our landlord in the face, we spent 10 years boisterously bragging about how cool it is to be dirty and homeless while quietly crying to our northern neighbor and begging them to bring us in off the streets. And while we told everyone that one of things that made us so cool was how hard we shit our pants when we ~~defeated Mexico~~ got abandoned by Mexico like a parent too disappointed in their child to even argue anymore, we got so desperate for a new mommy or daddy that we considered going home with anyone who made the mistake of looking at us while walking by:

But even while coming to prize independence, Texas found itself weak and bankrupt, newly menaced by a Mexico that never recognized her right to exist. With historical repercussions that can only be guessed at today, the country’s leaders seriously considered taking Texas into the British Empire.

So, to our future Piss Baby in Chief, I dare you to try. My city alone has a shocking number of military bases and I'm sure any one of them can easily get foreign-leader-killing drones in the air within seconds of having a new enemy holding US troops hostage.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I’m excited for the wannabe domestic terrorists in West Texas to realize that sparsely vegetated and habituated scrubland is a drone operator’s ISR wet dream to thwack pickup convoys, and have a public come-to-Jesus moment before decrying this pointless dick measuring contest. Any kind armed rebellion without near total collapse of the federal government, is a fantasy

[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago

You don't even need drones. Insurgents aren't particularly technical, and tend to use unsecured communications that are easily pinpointed for a precision HIMARS or smart artillery strike. Ask the Russians how it went for them. They lost thousands in Ukraine because soldiers used cellphones to call home to Mama - calls processed through Ukrainian cellular towers.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago (2 children)

You don't think if the government started sending drones after pickups that they wouldn't gain more popular support?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago

I’m also trapped. We should group up.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 51 points 9 months ago (4 children)

If America falls we're taking all of you fuckers with us

[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago

That is definitely true, but I will still be laughing on the way down with you ;)

[–] [email protected] -4 points 9 months ago

Ok, do it you cowards. I double dog dare you.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I personally welcome my always was Chinese overlord

[–] [email protected] 31 points 9 months ago

+5 to your social credit for willfully accepting the CCP.

-25 for engaging with an unsanctioned online community.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 32 points 9 months ago (2 children)

100% true. We are kind of a tad bit important to the world economy. The way I worded it was over the top for comedic value but when it comes down to it, if America goes down its gonna be an absolute fucking mess for everyone.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 9 months ago

You're also forgetting the general slide into fascism that could have far more dire effects on the world.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 9 months ago

The number of countries that pegged their currency to the USD is staggering. If the US defaults for any reason the global economy ceases to exist. Crashed by Adam Tooze is a great deep dive into the 2008 financial crises and goes in depth on how interconnected all the major economies are.

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