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Protesters march through London with ‘I love Hezbollah’ banners (www.telegraph.co.uk)

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 weeks ago

"Allah is above them"

Maybe, but the flying spaghetti monster is even higher!

[+] [email protected] 10 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (2 children)

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[–] [email protected] -4 points 4 weeks ago

"Holocaust-inversion" is one of those phrases that just immediately marks you as a hasbarist.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Weird how I'm not seeing all the pro-terrorist signs in the photo of the crowd at the top of that image.

I wonder if maybe the Telegraph, run by one of the conservative, ultra-rich Barclay brothers, might have some sort of agenda here?

[+] [email protected] -6 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (2 children)

IMO organizing or attending these marches so close to the anniversary of the massacre is itself pretty clearly pro-terror, in the way that people prominently associating themselves with the date of April 20 are also supporting a similar ideology without having to name it explicitly.

It's not like there are marches every weekend. They specifically chose this weekend.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

Well, in the U.S., it’s written 4/20 and everyone associates it with getting mega high. It was successfully reclaimed by stoners.

Also, I’ll protest war and genocide on September 11th. It doesn’t mean I’m somehow pro-terror. This may shock you but most people who are anti-war don’t like Hamas or the Israeli government and are mostly concerned about the civilian carnage that’s inevitable in war. You might want to look in the mirror if you have a rooting interest in a dumbfuck, brutal war that’s making everyone worse off.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

pretty clearly pro-terror

That is utter nonsense. Regardless of what Hamas did on October 7th, which I am guessing pretty much no one there thinks was a good thing, it was also the day Israel's genocide started. Large numbers of innocent Palestinians, including a huge number of children, started being killed that day.

And you know for a fact that it doesn't matter when the protest happens in terms of this sort of negative coverage. Or did you think the media took a positive view of the campus protests a few months ago when it was definitely not October anything?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

No, no. There needs to be a clear 6.5 month buffer on both sides of the attack before any protest can happen. /s

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 weeks ago

It's like the "too soon to talk about guns" after every school shooting, but there are regular school shootings, so it's always too soon.

[–] [email protected] 62 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

Gonna say it, this REALLY feels like a case of the news cherry-picking what parts of a protest they show. Between the unreasonable viewpoint that's directly adjacent to a very sensible and popular viewpoint and the fact we KNOW the media have a very vested interest in trying to push pro-genocide narratives (such as anti-Israel protests being pro-terrorist)...

Yeah, even someone as gullible as me? I'm not buying this.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 weeks ago

This is the telegraph.

Imagine Boris Johnson dressed in tweed and living in a cottage in Devon

That's their reader base

[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (1 children)

UK news sources are very prone to behaving like that, if you ever spent time in r/GreenAndPleasant it's shocking how much UK news you dont hear about. Anything vaguely anti-crown just doesn't get coverage. Or protests in general.

It's part of why they media bias bot is laughable given it considers BBC unbiased

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

It’s part of why they media bias bot is laughable given it considers BBC unbiased

Do you remember the "Sir you are being hunted" indie game? That is what i imagine the bot to look like, wearing tweed and living in his evil robot cottage.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (1 children)

Among the placards on display on the London march was one showing a silhouette of Nasrallah, with the words “We will not abandon Palestine”.

One example. One.

Others declared: “Hezbollah are not terrorists” and “I love Hezbollah”.

How many? How many out of the entire crowd?

The placards were on prominent display, despite the Metropolitan Police warning on Friday that it would crack down on any displays of support for prescribed terror groups such as Hamas and Hezbollah.

What does "prominent display" mean in the context of a public protest?

They had two photos of such signs, clearly from the same group of people. Which must be a pretty small group considering that is the entirety of their evidence.

Frankly, I'm weighing deleting this article as misinformation.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

Fun fact. There were known neonazis around Shandon Simpson with a Hezbollah flag at the Protests at the DNC convention like a month or two back and far right media in the anglosphere, some pro Netanyahu outlets in Israel and zionist "journalists" in Germany used this as "proof" how the protestor were all terrorists. Meanwhile there were videos where the carriers were interviewed and it was painstakingly obvious to be neonazi trolls aiming to sow dissent and create these kind of images. Even the ADL recognized the culprits.

I have written something in my substack about it (in German) if anyone is interested. The images and a tweet of the ADL alone are enough to tell the key aspects of the story. https://salehdt.substack.com/p/taz-fallt-auf-rechtsextreme-trolle

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 weeks ago (5 children)

Really? You love militants who would probably rather kill you than have a coffee with you?

[–] [email protected] -1 points 4 weeks ago

Zionism is a supremacist ideology. They're not interested in having coffee with me.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

I mean, they are picking militants who are opposing genocide. Choosing 'would rather kill you' over 'are killing you' is logical in a limited context.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Oh, trust me, those militants are very much pro-genocide, they just haven't quite figured out a way to be successful at it.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 4 weeks ago

Oh, trust me

No thanks, guy who thinks the average person in Hezbollah wants to inexplicably kill a random British person rather than have coffee with them.

[+] [email protected] 10 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

I suspect a lot of people are unhappy and are looking for solutions. They aren't evaluating their solutions, just latching onto the first things that make them feel like change is possible.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 4 weeks ago

I think people are looking outside their persona atomization and realizing the world is much worse than the hegemonic narrative would have us believe. As more information becomes available, old ideology declines. The smug comfort of white bros is disturbed when their moral authority is questioned. If they can't make lazy jokes about having coffee in a genocide, is anything safe anymore?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 weeks ago

This is the best explanation of anything I’ve read in years. I think you are spot on. There would be a lot less polarisation online if people understood this.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 4 weeks ago

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