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Looks like protests have erupted since this happened, with some protest signs are in english, and people are getting arrested too. Does anyone know what going on with that?
Does anyone know what going on with that?
Not much. I found numbers from 55 to 400 arrested country-wide in two days. They'll get 20 days and a fine at the very worst. I think you can surmise how widespread and consequential these protests are. As I saw someone say on TG Navalny's hamsters remaining in the country can probably be caught on one camera shot from a drone if they were in one place.
So a small group going feral for Western propaganda? Very cool…
Sounds like a spontaneous opportunistic NED/CIA/western-billionaire-NGO colour revolution attempt to me.
That was my immediate thought too. The English signs threw me off the most, it’s not like they need to reach a wider audience so what gives? It’s very fishy…
English signs can mean two things:
- They want "the international community" (
) to notice them and do something. - It is a lot easier to get the guys in Langley to approve your slogans when you don't try to make them read a foreign language.
I reckon that neither is going to convince any significant number of Russians of anything other than the fact that these libs are making fools of themselves.
Signs in English used to be quite widespread in such gatherings. Same with pro-EU "protests" in Georgia, Armenia and back in 2014 in Ukraine.
Yeah and the smell of money was always following them right to the Washington.
The libs of mastodon are having a field day with this one, crying about how he was such a hero despite knowing fuck-all about anything.
No figure better encapsulates Western liberal propaganda against Russia.
Notice the complete absence of discussion of any other oppositions figures or forces (controlled or otherwise) within Russia, along with the attendant impression that he is supposed to be far more popular than he actually is.
Note the conspiracy of silence regarding his past and actual political ideology.
That being said, whatever the circumstances of his death, it's a nationalist government killing a fascist. Oh well.
Western media are really bad at this. Whenever they are dealing with political struggles in countries outside their Aryan garden, they immediately reduce everything down to a simple binary of pro-western/pro-democracy/anti-corruption Vs. pro-BadCountry/authoritarian/corrupt.
Yeah it's also crazy when you realize instinctual it is. Like I don't think all the dolts at the Guardian pumping out ink for the ink god really reflectively think 'we have to craft this manichean narrative for the sake of liberalism' given that's not actually how ideology generally works. I have no doubt (actually, I know from personal experience) that it you push narrative which don't conform you will sometimes get responses which straight-up make no reference to the truth of the matter but explicitly reject what youre saying because its politically inconvenient. That being said, it is fascinating and disturbing of reflexive and instinctual these kinds of responses are in general culture, and how little most people in liberal societies are either willing or capable of critically analyzing and evaluating this kind of stuff. Like they could just read what Putin says to get a more accurate account of the Russian state's motivations for their actions.
it’s a nationalist government killing a fascist.
If they wanted the idiot dead, he'd be dead long before.
I don't really think this is valid reasoning tbh. Governments can kill people at a whim, but frequently do not because they would rather they die over time through conditions such as prisons. There are other factors they consider apart from simply wanting him dead. They don't need to have killed his directly. It could simply be the result of mental and physical health issues due to his imprisonment. Life expectancy in prisons is markedly lower for a reason.
I've seen takes that he was killed by the West to blame Putin, but I haven't really seen any actual hard evidence for this
Western governments want Assange dead. So by that logic he'd be dead long before now. He's not, but I'm not about to conclude that the US gov doesn't want Assange in an anonymous ditch. There are plenty of revolutionaries being let to rot in US prisons from the previous decades. It's just killing them in slow motion.
At the end of the day we don't have objective info to allow us to conclude one way or another as to exactly why he's dead, and both the West and Russia are obviously deeply biased sources.
All of the most popular subreddits are talking about Navalny's death as if he was some kind of hero. It is impressive how propaganda can PR this dude's image into a fantastical hero/human that liberals can look up to. Truly disgusting how libs fall for this
I saw the lemmy thread for this and it was full of shit-for-brains liberals mourning his loss despite the fact they have zero idea who he was. At least they stopped once the comment explaining who he was got to the top.
At least they stopped once the comment explaining who he was got to the top
I'm surprised. Usually even when you do explain, it gets handwaved away with "lesser evilism"
Trudeau being annoying about this, what else is new:
Why does it sound like he had chatGPT write this eulogy for him?
Aren't the sources for machine learning and ai things that already exist? If you feed liberal drivel into an AI, won't it give you more liberal drivel?
Both your questions are correct, but to me it's the manner of speech above all. "reports are [two adjectives]", "let this be an important reminder",
A lot of his tweets are written this way, at least in my opinion. Maybe that’s just how he is or he really does use ChatGPT.
Is there anyone taking him seriously after paying homage to a literal nazi collaborator?
We only take him seriously because he’s the leader of this country, nothing else. If he lacked executive powers people would probably care less. Then again, our local MPs are tweeting about Navalny too and stirring up trouble so…. Our entire government is a circus.
Unwavering advocate for Russian democracy and freedom
Freedom to do what, shoot the Caucasians?
Hmm, three paragraphs of about that size is pretty typical for chatGPT.
Where was this outrage when Evo Morales or Lula were ousted? Oh that's right, he supported the fascists.
Canadians and supporting fascism, what's a more iconic North American Duo
Obviously the Biden administration and supporting fascism lmao
