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[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Brain updates? Now with integrated thought-crime prevention using AI-safety training data.

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Good lord, just let people DIE. Imagine what a rotten place this would be if people with outdated mindsets continued to control the world decades or even centuries after their expiration dates. People were already angry about 80 year old presidential candidates... what happens when they're 120, or 150?

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago (8 children)

If you want a bit of a deeper dive, Sean Carroll's Mindscape gets into the science of aging and known workable remedies/treatments.

The good news is that Billionaires will not be living forever any time soon.

The bad news is that we've got a cellularly defined terminal limit and there's nothing we can do to simply reset the clock. "Cloned Bodies" for animals are dysfunctional bordering on nightmarish. The human brain's plasticity isn't something you can renew with a pill or a potion. Blood Boys don't work. There aren't trivially replaceable components in the human body.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago

Its wild this research is even being attempted, its borderline unethical to experiment on otherwise healthy people.

I fully don't expect immune system driven aging to be understood until the Thymus better understood. DNA reproduction and telomere related aging will not be addressable until cell to cell signaling is finally mapped, and methylation activation/deactivation can be targeted.

Most likely some kind of cloned brain tissue can help reduce age-related cognitive decline and some diseases. Imo we'd get far more out of targeting specific diseases than going after aging.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

I'd be fine with billionaires getting it first. As much as I'm not a fan of late stage capitalism, I refuse to cut off my nose to spite my face; they got A/C, feather beds, cars, baths, and all sorts of other luxuries long before us plebs got them. Let them beta test the stuff, and by the time the economies of scale pick up enough for it to be affordable to the rest of us, the kinks will be worked out.

Of course there's always the possibility of a cartel withholding it from the masses, but that's what the second amendment and guillotines were invented for.

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I’d rather not enact the highest stakes ship of Theseus

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago

Probably the best description I've seen of this lmao

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 months ago (3 children)

No thanks. We don't need rich people living forever.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago

Seems your plan doesn't work, they are here anyways.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Might be the only way to get them to give a shit about the environment.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

I doubt it. They will just dump shit further away. If their solution default is to make things "somebody else's problem" there's no reason to believe they will stop thinking that way.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

That might be their outlook on "local" pollution for a while, but you don't think going from 20 years left to centuries to live might affect their opinions on global climate change?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Not really. Many of them are already heavily invested in life extension tech (not that I think it will work, but it means they're optimistic). I think their general worldview is that technology will fix it, at least for them.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

Yeah, I'm probably being too optimistic.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Speak for yourself. I think it would be great.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

They can live forever but have to trade their fortune for it permanently

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Millennials and Gen Z: *bond over their death wish Scientists: *ETERNAL LIFE

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago

"Millennials are ruining the death industry!"

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago

Could they have at least waited for the boomers to go first, they’ll never give up power now

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 months ago

President Joe Biden created ARPA-H in 2022, as an agency within the Department of Health and Human Services, to pursue what he called  “bold, urgent innovation”

I did not see Biden creating a cloning and immortality medical research arm of the government but I guess it's proof he already knew he was getting old before the debate and no wonder Trump wants back in the white house.

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