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[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Lol lmao. The right to the fruit of something is literally one of the kinds of Roman property law that informs European ideas of property rights.

Fruit trees are mostly just expensive to grow vs other kinds and can be unappealing if fruit spoils or attracts other animals. E.g. you probably wouldn't want to play on the grass underneath an orange tree on all the little bits of orange after possums have at it.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Ginko Biloba would like to know your location

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago (5 children)
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[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

it is indeed a problem if that response came from your neighbor or some other johnq on the street. 100% expected from a politician though

[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 months ago (6 children)

I've been told that this is a no-go for city planners because the sheer quantity of fallen fruit can be a walking hazard, and no one wants the legal liability. What it comes down to is that "free" fruit trees would require additional ongoing maintenance costs. Nothing nefarious, just logistical issues.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago

Fallen bananas are slippery.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 months ago (2 children)

You mean like shoveling sidewalks in the winter?

Oh no.

The horror.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago (2 children)

what if the trees are planted in a park, far from the road?

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 months ago (9 children)

How fucked is it that our first thoughts are about cars and sidewalks?

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago

I'd say that's a question for city planners.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Sounds like job creation to me

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I imagine if there were trees all over every street in town there would be a lot of mushy ass fruit swarming with flies on the ground.

It's not a stable enough logistics chain to be viable, like, If I think "I'd like to possess a bowl of apples" I'm not going to like, patrol the streets and pick apples to that end.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago

You would if you were hungry and didn't have money

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago

Because we live in a world where everything is owned by someone and one must profit off of anything they possess or it's considered a wasteful liability.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago

No you weren't.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 months ago (2 children)

No legal advice, but I am pretty sure picking an apple from a tree in a public space (but can be privately owned) for direct consumption is legal in Germany. Weird but understandable that you need a law for that.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Laws regarding public access to nature are much better in Europe & the UK than in the US.

If I remember correctly, Trespassing isn't a viable law in Finland.

You want to walk across the land? Go ahead.

In the US: CRIME

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

But what if you want to make moonshine or cook meth? How are you supposed to get some privacy with people traipsing all over the place?

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Not just crime but in large parts of the country it's a popular myth that they can shoot you for being on their property. They can't, that's ridiculous, but Hollywood and popular myth won't let it die.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (6 children)

From a city planner view point this would never fly because it was attract insects to public spaces.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

In my city, city planners decided to bring trees that aren't native to our country (sycamore trees), and now we have an invasion of these bugs that bite and stink bugs.

But at least we don't have, god forbid, bees.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 months ago

How disgusting! Nature? In my neighborhood? Ugh.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago

Same for any flowers

[–] [email protected] 28 points 2 months ago

How dare we have pollinators.

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[–] [email protected] 49 points 2 months ago (19 children)

You just know some asshole would pick all the trees clean and go sell the fruit

[–] [email protected] 49 points 2 months ago (4 children)

No offense to you personally, but I hate this kind of premature defeatism. Like... yeah, some people are jerks and try to take advantage of things. Put rules in place and enforce them as much as the people in charge care to.

I know it's strawmanning to bring this up, but people use the same argument to say "We shouldn't have food stamps for hungry kids or welfare for needy families or subsidized housing for people without homes because people will abuse it. Yeah. Some people will, and others will suffer because of their greed. But so many more people will continue to suffer if we don't even try because we are too scared of The Undeserving boogeyman. Not every tree will be taken advantage of, and as the sense of outreach and community grows, abuse of it will fall and it will be worth it. I guarantee it...

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[–] [email protected] 53 points 2 months ago

Plant enough so they can't make a profit.

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[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I hope they plan on coming back through and cleaning up all the not used drops. Especially before they all start rotting or animals get drunk on them and run into traffic.

https://land8.com/5-reasons-why-planting-fruit-trees-along-sidewalks-is-a-terrible-idea/

Here is someone trying it but notice they have an entire crew devoted to managing them and their hundreds of lbs of produce weekly. None of this even talks about the logistics of distributing it either.

https://nextcity.org/urbanist-news/cities-are-planting-trees-why-not-make-them-fruit-trees

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago (3 children)

If the suits who run society find out that people would get this fruit for free, they'd probably make it so that taking this fruit is considered stealing. You'd get a fine, charged with thievery because it's property of the city.

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[–] [email protected] 201 points 2 months ago (5 children)
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