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[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 month ago

Oh no.... anyhow how about this weather?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Meanwhile Israel bombed and killed 90 civilians on the same day, including an orphanage

The Apartheid needs to end for all this violence to end, none of these civilians deserve any of this.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

There are no good guys in this conflict.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

The Ezzedine Al-Qassam Brigades takes responsibility for the heroic Jaffa operation carried out by the fighters from the [occupied West Bank] city of Hebron

Heroic operation? Shooting up a tram? Fuck off. This is not resistance, it's wanton murder. Random people in public transit are not legitimate targets.

The fanatic stupidity on display here is astounding. But what else to expect? Fanatic stupidity festers in occupation, dehumanization, and genocide.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

This is probably the only way left for them to have any form of resistance. Since the international community have largely failed them and with Daddy Yankee and the war machine in Israel's corner there is no chance of conventional war even if they had the numbers.

These attacks create a culture of fear in everyday Israelis but if sustained it could possibly cause them to put pressure on their gov for a ceasefire and force Bibi out. Who knows, the whole situation is just tragic and has gone on for decades.

Maybe some day our species will realize the futility of war.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (7 children)

Yeah and?

Israel invaded their country and is committing genocide. It should come to no one’s surprise that Israel fucks around and finds out during a war they started.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

This round of fighting started after the Hamas attack though.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 month ago (2 children)

This wasn't an act of war, it was an act of terrorism. They shot passengers on a train. All casualties were civilian.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Exactly! This is why I say Israel has a right to defend itself while Hamas should not be allowed to exist.

Though recent events (like Israel's pager attack) have made this argument much weaker....

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Eh, Israel, Hamas, and Hezbollah all have the right to exist, and to defend themselves. But we have to define that pretty strictly.

Carpet-bombing Gaza isn't defense.

Slaughtering music festival attendees is not defense.

Indiscriminate bomb planting and destination is not defense.

Shooting up a train station is not defense.

Bombing hospitals and aid trucks is not defense.

I draw the line at deliberately or recklessly killing civilians.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

I otherwise agree with all your points.

The issue with Hamas existing is due to its founding charter, see https://www.adl.org/resources/article/hamas-its-own-words for details on this but a brief summary is that it does not permit Israel to exist, period. There's no theoretical deal or goal to reach for the both of them to existing side by side in peace.

Hezbollah has similar issues.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

there is under international law a diffrent set of rules of war the Palistianans operate under than Isn'treal do as Palistine is seen as an opressed and colonised people fighting for independence

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 month ago

Their hatred of Israelis. That's the only possible excuse for supporting the deliberate slaughter of civilians (including women and children).

If you're mad at Israel for doing it, be mad at anyone doing it.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Israel killing civilians does not excuse Hama's killing civilians.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 1 month ago

Just wondering, when do you think this war started?