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Reddit is making sitewide protests basically impossible (www.theverge.com)

submitted 2 weeks ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Mods could just make a filter to remove everything new anyway. The concept of mods being unpaid volunteers means they get to fuck with reddit if they really want. They already had that issue with some subs just starting to allow porn during the first api protest. Sure reddit can just churn through to newer friendlier mods like the first time but they're not going to be able to crush all the dissent and drama from moves like that.

But actually I think reddit has a bigger problem than protests. They tweaked their algorithm recently and it is going the way of facebook now, I've been getting 0 upvote day-old posts shown to me. They're probably getting more engagement but I don't think redditors are going to put up with that level of enshittification as easily as other social media where people are locked in by friends and followers.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 weeks ago

I wonder how much longer it will be before Reddit has to start paying people to moderate the subreddits since no one will want to do it for free anymore.

Who am I kidding, there are so many people that are already taking their payment in the HOA like authority being a mod gives them that will never happen.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 2 weeks ago

There's an irony seeing Redditors creating threads and complaining about it as if they did anything during the API-gate saga

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago

I'm sure there will be ways around it. Mods can automod-delete every comment, change the rules of the sub to only allow posts of nonsense, or nit moderate at all.

The main problem is that protests don't succeed at reddit because people like moderating for free for some reason. Strangely Reddit has more leverage over mods than mods have over reddit.

[–] [email protected] 99 points 2 weeks ago (6 children)

so many leaders are forgetting what the point of protests is. yes, protests are annoying if you're a leader. but they're better than the alternative. that's the whole point.

[–] [email protected] 49 points 2 weeks ago (11 children)

They're better than the OLD alternative, which was total boycotting at best, and torches and pitchforks at worst. The NEW alternative is complaining about it for a week or two, then continuing on without making any changes at all. They don't mind the new alternative.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

But that complacency isn't happening to everyone. A lot are just festering, slowly digesting more incredulous and radical propaganda/influencers. Every ones base reality of the events that are happening over the country is getting completely skewed by the new types of outlets like tiktok that they flock to because of the lack of accountability by our elected officials and journalists/news organizations.

During just this last hurricane Helene I've heard more anger and outrage about the government than anything to actually do about what's been hit or what the people and rescue workers are actually doing. This is how we get mass shooters and assassinations becoming more prolific, people aren't just complaining and going about their day. They're nodding and grinding their teeth while smiling.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago

i'm not yet sold on this "old vs new" thing. while i do agree that it would be better if people were more engaged/active about boycotting things and pulling out the pitchforks, my understanding is that hasn't been the historical precedent in situations like this. the pitchfork stuff certainly did happen quite a lot in the past, but my understanding is that it was for more extreme problems than a social media company shutting down third party apps (which many people didn't even know about). but then again, it might be hard to compare this to the company transgressions of the past.

my understanding is that frustration is building, and if things continue in this direction, they will reach a tipping point where people do actually stop using the website all together and switch to alternatives. and, this ban on protests will give the reddit executives much less information on how close things are to that tipping point. (not to mention that the ban itself will probably accelerate things.)

but i could be mistaken about this, and i'm open to changing my mind on it.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

The new alternative is becoming obsolete

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I sure hope so, but I don't see much changing. I guess we'll see by looking at where Reddit is at business-wise by next year. People were saying it was doomed last summer after the 3rd party app fiasco, and their daily traffic has only gone up since then. I've long since lost all faith in the masses making the best choices for themselves.