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The post Xitter web has spawned soo many “esoteric” right wing freaks, but there’s no appropriate sneer-space for them. I’m talking redscare-ish, reality challenged “culture critics” who write about everything but understand nothing. I’m talking about reply-guys who make the same 6 tweets about the same 3 subjects. They’re inescapable at this point, yet I don’t see them mocked (as much as they should be)

Like, there was one dude a while back who insisted that women couldn’t be surgeons because they didn’t believe in the moon or in stars? I think each and every one of these guys is uniquely fucked up and if I can’t escape them, I would love to sneer at them.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (9 children)

from this post (archive)

App developers think that’s a bogus argument. Mr. Bier told me that data he had seen from start-ups he advised suggested that contact sharing had dropped significantly since the iOS 18 changes went into effect, and that for some apps, the number of users sharing 10 or fewer contacts had increased as much as 25 percent.

aww, does the widdle app's business model collapse completely once it can't harvest data? how sad

this reinforces a suspicion that I've had for a while: the only reason most people put up with any of this shit is because it's an all or nothing choice and they don't know the full impact (because it's intentionally obscured). the moment you give them an overt choice that makes them think about it, turns out most are actually not fine with the state of affairs

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (8 children)

Maybe not the right place, not really a sneer but anyways. The Smile (aka Yorke & Greenwood from Radiohead) made a music video with StableDiffusion and I’m pretty bummed out. 😔

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (2 children)

basilisk save us from breathless idiocy by rubes

Altman’s investors will have had to get comfortable with at least four levels of intricacy.

ah yes the four-fold path of investing, the true religion

More head-scratching is OpenAI’s governance. Altman was ousted last year, then swiftly returned.

“I cannot look at this and analyse the power structure, and thus I am very confused as to how this happened”

But investors making that call today must surely be powered more by instinct than intelligence.

“must surely”? call the builders, we’ve found a new ultra-strong load bearing phrase

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

(also h/t to @self who I just realized was the one that retooted the thing where I saw this)

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (4 children)

As previously mentioned, the "Behind the Bastards" podcast is tackling Curtis Yarvin. I'm just past the first ad intermission (why are all podcast ads just ads for other podcasts? It's like podcast incest), and according to the host, Yarvin models his ideal society on Usenet pre-Eternal September.

This is something I've noticed too (I got on the internet just before). There's a nostalgia for the "old" internet, which was supposed to be purer and less ad-infested than the current fallen age. Usenet is often mentioned. And I've always thought that's dumb because the old internet was really really exclusionary. You had to be someone in academia or internet business, so you were Anglophone, white, and male. The dream of the old pure internet is a dream of an internet without women or people of color, people who might be more expressive in media other than 7 bit ASCII.

This was a reminder that the nostalgia can be coded fascist, too.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

I have a lot of time for nostalgia about older versions of the web, but it really ticks me off when people who actively participated in making the web worse start to indulge in nostalgia about the web. Doesn't Yarvin get a lot of money from Peter Thiel?

There were women and people of colour on the old web, and feminists and radical anti-racists too - they were just outnumbered and outgunned. One of the earliest projects listed on the cyberfeminism index are VNS Matrix, who were "corrupting the discourse" way back in 1991.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

To be perfectly fair i was a very callow youth at the time and probably bounced off stuff like that had I come in contact with it.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

why are all podcast ads just ads for other podcasts? It’s like podcast incest

I'm thinking combination of you probably having set all your privacy settings to non serviam and most of their sponsors having opted out of serving their ads to non US listeners.

I did once get some random scandinavian sounding ads, but for the most part it's the same for me, all iheart podcast trailers.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

The funniest thing I got was ads for Maybelline in a podcast about WW2. Know your audience!

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

The YouTube version doesn't have the ads

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

A redditor has a pinned post on /r/technology. They claim to be at a conference with Very Important Promptfondlers. The OP feels like low-effort guerilla marketing, tbh; the US will dominate the EU due to an overwhelming superiority in AI, long live the new flesh, Emmanuel Macron is on board so this is SUPER SERIOUS, etc.

PS: the original poster, /u/WillSen, self-identifies as CEO of a bootcamp/school called "codesmith," and has lots of ideas about how to retrain people to survive in the longed-for post-AI hellscape. So yeah, it's an ad.

https://old.reddit.com/r/technology/comments/1fufbfm/im_a_tech_ceo_at_the_berlin_global_dialogue_w/

The central problem of 21st century democracy will be finding a way to inoculate humanity against confident bullshitters. That and nature trying to kill us. Oh, and capitalism in general, but I repeat myself.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

This exchange on HN, from the Wordpress meltdown, is going to make an amazing exhibit in the upcoming trial:

Anonymous: Matt, I mean this sincerely: get yourself checked out. Do you have a carbon monoxide detector in your house? … Go to a 10 day silent retreat, or buy a ranch in Montana and host your own Burning Man…

Matt Mullenweg: Thanks, I carry a co2 and carbon monoxide monitor. … I do own a place in Montana, and I meditate several times a day.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I have only just noticed that this is dated a year in the future

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Voted sneerer most likely to build a fully-functional time machine!

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

acausal sneers from our superpredictors

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

blake is rather more advanced in physics than we had anticipated

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

New post from Ed Zitron just dropped which goes into a lotta detail on OpenAI's finances around the time the deal was closing.

I've already cracked one Kendrick reference, so fuck it:

*psst* I see dead people

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

Given the proliferation of libertarians in SV, Ed probably wouldn't even need to change the "A-minor" line is all I'm saying.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

ah, sweet, manmade horrors beyond my comprehension:

manmade horrors

(This would've been more shocking to me in 2023, but after over a year in this bubble I have stopped expecting anything resembling basic human decency from those who work in AI)

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Not a lawyer, but wouldn't that be something her estate could kick up some legal dust about? That's two dozen kinda ways of fucked up.

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