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Whataboutism.
Everyone should take offense to the militarization of police and copaganda.
Military/police tech and machines can be cool and cops can be bastards at the same time.
Everyone should take offense to the militarization of police and copaganda.
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Get real.
I'm not the one that posted a textbook propaganda technique as a title.
You could have posted any of the actual arguments but you come across as a bootlicker so it makes sense you couldn't come up with any.
Textbook propaganda
Why are you studying propaganda textbooks?
Actual arguments? There weren't any in the thread, nor is this post celebrating the militarisation of police; it's pointing out the hypocrisy that the countries they praise also militarise their police
That's why it's hilarious that you're whining about whataboutism and then saying that everyone should take offence. So which is it, bud?
and lmao, who am i bootlicking?
A “tankie”, singular. By this logic tankies are in to Wheel of Time.
Tankies are always unified with their beliefs.
until they start asking questions about said beliefs
Way to generalize there chief
Lmao, go ask a tankie a question and watch the meltdown of you don't like this (extremely accurate) generalization.
You can see hundreds of examples of this across this community, chief.
I'm not sure I understand why this is a big deal. Kids are sometimes into dump trucks and I put this in the same category.
The idea is that police gaining more power over citizens further divides class.
Yes and also many of the "tankies" on Lemmy aren't actually communists or even real people. It's a facade used to spread propaganda, often in order to divide people.
People vs police Men vs women Old vs young Black vs white Rich vs poor Rural vs urban Etc
Oh, this tired trite again.
ffs, they're not fake. They ain't bots. They ain't federal agents. They ain't foreign agents.
Not every single fucking idiot out there is fake, not every bigot is fake, not every extremist is fake. I've said it over and over and over again. Think logically.
Why would shills bother with Lemmy when they’re already extreme? Why water a floodplain, you know? They’re already converted; they don’t need any more shilling. Why wouldn’t they pull all their resources to mainstream social media like twitter or reddit, which has everyones attention? No international news or big influencers exist on Lemmy. It is a loss of resources.
People are just extreme. Being paranoid and calling everyone you don’t like a shill or a bot ignores the fact that some people just have extreme views. They ain’t bots, they ain’t shills, they’re just bigots in safespaces and afraid of discussion. Pretending that extremists naturally don’t exist makes you as paranoid as they are. This community has been called psyops, and myself a foreign agent more times than I can count. You’re not a shill. I’m not a shill. Don’t stoop to their level, basically.
(I’m not saying they aren’t affected by shills. The propaganda they willingly consume originates from psyops on different websites, but they aren’t the prime target)
Honestly I may make a new rule where you can't call them fake; it's handwaving their bigotry and extremism. They are real people.
Not every single fucking idiot out there is fake, not every bigot is fake, not every extremist is fake. I've said it over and over and over again. Think logically.
I stopped reading here because of the strawman and condescension.
this guy is clearly a right-wing asshole. I don't know why so many people upvote his posts
Yeah could be... and also the content might be an LLM and upvotes may be bots. The whole thing would be kind of entertaining if it wasn't filling the de facto public square with hate and misinformation
no this guy is genuinely a real life stupid piece of shit I can tell because his content was this dumb before ChatGPT got big IIRC
Why do you think I'm a stupid piece of shit?
You are deeply paranoid.
Tankies are bots. The users here are bots. I'm a bot.
No need to be rude
You're calling everyone you meet a bot, dude.
How about you go harass someone else?
I'm just warning you to stop calling people bots.
Not being able to read isn't much of a brag
Nor is it a strawman. I can link you to so many other users who say the same as you do, and how many times I try to explain to them that no, there's no shilling on Lemmy.
You know for a person claiming to know they're autistic, you're really bad at understanding when your disability has destroyed your ability to understand others or complex social dynamics.