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(dnd 5e) Prove me wrong, RAW (sh.itjust.works)

submitted 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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Disclaimer: this is purposefully obtuse.

Other effects in the game which explicitly state they kill you:

Shadows, succubi, massive damage, death saving throws, beholder death ray (notably not even their disintegration ray kills you), power word kill, vampires, mind flayers, night hags, drow inquisitors.

Clearly, if they intended for disintegration to kill you, they'd have said so. Since specific overrides general, and there is no general rule that disintegrated creatures are dead, I rest my case. QED.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

The rules also don't state that being incapacitated impairs movement in any way, dropping to 0hp is stated to incapacitate you. So you can just move away at 0hp.

Obviously we have DMs who aren't robots and will play to the spirit of the game, not the word of the rules.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Why would it matter if it says you die? It's not like there's a rule that dead characters can't take actions. Or that they transform into objects. Or get sent to another plane of existence depending on who they worship and their alignment while leaving an object behind.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

It doesn't kill you, it turns you into an inanimate object.

Edit: And objects aren't creatures.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Spells do what they say they do, and disintegrate doesn't change you into an object. Compare to True Polymorph, a higher level spell, which can creatures into objects.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Ok, disintegrate transforms you in a pile of tiny objects if you get down to 0 HP when hit

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 weeks ago

This is the real meaning of the exception that proves the rule.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

*"Jesse, what the fuck are you talking about?"

Jesus, get the quote right.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 weeks ago

That's not even in the scene.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GX-m7UsCp3I

Here's what Walter actually says:

How are you doing?

...mumbling...

How are you doing?

You did the only thing that you could, I hope you understand that.

Any thoughts on what our next move might be?

Our next move. Our next move. Given the fact that at the first opportunity, Gus will kill us.

No, no, we bought ourselves some time, yes, but... The question is how much. He will be looking for another chemist.

Are you sure you're...

What do you mean?

What page is that?

[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

Get the feeling it would be difficult to have a dust based strength character though. Hard to hold weapons/make attacks with them as dust.

Maybe wizard?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago

Two-handed weapons require two hands, and one-handed weapons require a free hand to load. But you could use a one-handed weapon that you don't have to load. Or rather, you don't even need to do that, since no weapons are listed as being one-handed.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

"As you cross the street you take 1d4 of wind damage. Please make death saves."

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

"it starts misting as you are traveling"

Roll to not get washed away

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 weeks ago

Due to the failed Dex save you have been dissolved. Please make Con saves for drowning.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

RAW, a pile of dust is not a playable character option. Sorry.

RAW, you also cannot play as a dragon fairy princess. That would be homebrew.

You REALLY want to play a pile of dust...? Well, okay, we can homebrew that for you.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Pfft, you could play a dragon fairy princess in 3e. Probably at something like a +10 level adjustment.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago

The good old days.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Well I didn't start as a pile of dust. I became one via a RAW spell.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

So? That doesn't make it a playable option. Point to where it says, RAW, that you can continue to play as something you're turned into?

RAW, it is not a playable character option. Sounds to me like you prefer to abide by RAI...

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I don't need to point to where RAW says that I cannot play it because nothing leads one to believe that you can't. If your character is polymorphed, its state changes but you can still play it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (10 children)

Where does it say that, RAW? I'm using your own logic against you. You'll have to come up with a better response than that.

Edit: to clarify, where does it say RAW that you get to continue playing when polymorphed into a non-playable character?

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

You could say that about anything. You want to move left? Point to where it says, RAW, that you can move left.

You can do anything unless the rules forbid it. And there's nothing forbidding continuing to play after your character is transformed any more than there is anything forbidding you to play while they're wearing a red shirt.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

You being able to move left is covered clearly by the rules under movement speed.

You cannot "do anything unless the rules forbid it". That's not how RAW works.

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[–] [email protected] 53 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

My sister played a campaign as a sentient ham sandwich. She would love this.

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Lmao 🤣

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

I've never played DND so I don't know if this is something you could pull off or anything but I'd probably be like

"I snort the fine pile of dust" and then, I don't know, there's some latent personality or intention there, so now we have to alternate playing my character between turns/minutes or something. It'd probably make for some great RP moments, especially if each personality couldn't remember very well what the other was doing previously. Maybe the class and abilities change with each person, which makes arming up appropriately interesting or a pain depending on how we handle it I suppose.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 weeks ago

That would definitely fit right in at our table. Half the group is trying to break the game with their build, and the other half is trying to one-up the first half.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 weeks ago

Haha awesome, glad she enjoyed it!

[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

All that we are is dust in the wind.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

"We mortals are but shadows and dust, Maximus."

I hope you're an Illusionist Wizard.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

That's deep bro.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

that's a lich that travels with his phylactery

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 weeks ago

I like it!

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