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My dad uses Google Maps, and he mentioned that it seems to be getting worse. Like, giving him directions that are obviously worse than alternatives. Has anyone else here experienced this?

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 weeks ago

In my experience, google maps is really bad at finding parking. OSM-data is just better in this regard

[–] [email protected] 19 points 4 weeks ago (6 children)

I'd like to recommend 'Magic Earth' to everyone, who wants a privacy respecting Maps alternative with trafic data. I used it on several >500km trips and it only misguided me once. It uses OSM maps and can navigate offline.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 weeks ago

Gonna check that out for a trip next week, thank you!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 weeks ago

Seconded! It also has a more informative cycling interface.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 weeks ago

Absolutely. Not only does it show ads now, it's so busy that it's distracting and hard to keep track of your route.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 4 weeks ago

Yep. Multiple times I have had Google maps direct me to back employee only entrances instead of the regular entrances. Sometimes it seems like Google doesn't even recognize that the front entrance even exists.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 4 weeks ago (5 children)

There's an option to prefer fuel saving routes, which are worse most of the time. This was a kinda recent chance and it is enabled by default, try to disable it and see if it helps

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

On routes with few starts and stops, the route with the lower speed limit is the more fuel efficient one. Higher speed means higher drag (by the square of speed).

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

Mostly because that would be a shorter route then, cars have gears and are more efficient under a higher load so a higher speed, usually around 100kph is most efficient

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 weeks ago

Interesting. I’ll let him know. Thanks.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 4 weeks ago (3 children)

It does indicate the "fuel efficient" route pretty clearly though, and always gives multiple other options including the quickest one that isn't as efficient. If this is what's causing the issue, OP just needs to look closer at what's on their screen.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

needs to look closer at what's on their screen

IT guy here. The number of tickets I could close with this as the root cause.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 weeks ago

Mine actually started crashing when I opened it, so yeah. Luckily I live in a grid so it's not really hard to figure it out myself.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

Just like their search engine, making you scroll down further and potentially not even wanting you to leave their page, maps is trying to send you into the vicinity of more physically so you can go into their store and tell them that you found them along a route suggestion.

I don't think the above is true. At this point I'm just trying to give them ideas on how to enshittify it more.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 4 weeks ago

It's definitely been getting worse. The written directions aren't always accurate. Exits sometimes have the wrong label. Lanes are missing on the highways when they merge and separate.

I've also seen a similar thing with routes not always showing up or giving bad directions. It attempted to take me through a school bus barn and even through someone's yard once.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 weeks ago

I use google maps every day. Wouldn't say it's been getting worse.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Am from Malaysia and since the road and street is named using local language(bahasa malaysia), google now read out the full road name in terrible accent and pronunciation it took 3 or 4 times longer to finish an instruction readout, which in some case you will miss your turn. The instruction sometime couldn't even fit on the UI because the road name is just so long. It also read out which lane you should take just for turning. Before the change i can easily navigate the confusing city of Kuala Lumpur because the instruction is clear and concise, now i have to fight with the instruction because 3rd quarter of the time it's a language i can't recognise due to the terrible pronunciation.

Ohh did i mention the ads? They found a way to sneak ads into navigation. Now if you want to turn left 500m ahead, instead of telling you "turn left" , they will tell you to turn left after "xyz shop". Now you will be looking for that shop instead of turn left. The app is maintained by techbros that never drive

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 4 weeks ago (4 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 weeks ago

Ive used those and their routing is not even close to Google maps

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 weeks ago

My biggest gripe with Organic Street Maps (and every OSM) client that I've tried is that I can't find a way to display the destination address when I get close. I do some delivery work and that drives me crazy. Otherwise, it's great.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Does it save route history? Or destinations? That's one feature I like with Google, disregarding any privacy concerns.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 weeks ago

I use OsmAnd+ and you can configure it to save a track every time you use navigation. It can also send that track live to self hosted tracking servers. You need to enable the trip recording plugin.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Do you know if either of these incorporate traffic conditions?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

as they are privacy focused and have significantly fewer users, not yet.

but, the more users contributing and making requests, the sooner it could be integrated.

you can help by being one of those users!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 weeks ago

Thanks for the info!

[–] [email protected] 15 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

I just took a trip and the estimated arrival time assumed I would drive 15mph over the limit without stopping the whole way.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

I hate that "feature" so much. For a while it has used the speed of other's phones for your ETA. As in, if everyone is doing 10-15 over the speed limit, you're expected to go with the flow.
I don't want a more accurate ETA. I want to arrive when it says I will if I follow all speed limits, and shave off a couple minutes if I am going faster than that.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

How come it doesn't just know whether you tend to speed or not? Doesn't Google know everything about everyone?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 weeks ago

That would be super awesome if navigation apps had profiles.

Like, when I’m driving my car I go the speed of traffic or maybe a little fast.

And when I’m driving my motorhome I go 65mph tops and really slow up hills.

But totally nobody does this. Even the RV Trip Wizard app (built around Here navigation) makes you choose between β€œI drive XXX speed on average” (ignoring actual speed limits and conditions, just assume constant speed) or just assume normal traffic.

Why can’t they recognize that different drivers drive differently???

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[–] [email protected] 36 points 4 weeks ago

I was in New Mexico recently and Google Maps gave me a route from Bandelier National Monument to Santa Fe that included a β€œshortcut” through the Los Alamos National Laboratory campus. I got to meet a security guard.

So, yes. I would say I have experienced this.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 weeks ago

I've actually been having more trouble with Apple Maps lately.

My last trip was to perform at a country fair type thing and it couldn't locate the venue. So I thought maybe if I put on the satellite view, I could spot it and drop a pin? But the whole area was behind a cloud. Wow.

Then later, when we were returning, it tried to send me on a shortcut through a mall parking into an overgrown field.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

I'd say yes. Earlier this week, it navigated me, and I assume a metric ton of people through road construction. Took me over an hour to get to My destination. There's no chance that was actually the fastest route. 0 chance road construction and stalled cars was faster than literally anything else

[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Time to switch Gmaps to Organic Maps or Osmand. Both free and with offline navigation.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 weeks ago

Oh cool I've never heard but installed them from fdroid just now

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

I've been getting weird walking instructions. Like 6 min walk is +30 to avoid some invisible barrier.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 weeks ago

Those invisible intangible barriers can be tricky like that.

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