this post was submitted on 23 Sep 2024
1342 points (89.3% liked)

memes

10309 readers
1581 users here now

Community rules

1. Be civilNo trolling, bigotry or other insulting / annoying behaviour

2. No politicsThis is non-politics community. For political memes please go to [email protected]

3. No recent repostsCheck for reposts when posting a meme, you can only repost after 1 month

4. No botsNo bots without the express approval of the mods or the admins

5. No Spam/AdsNo advertisements or spam. This is an instance rule and the only way to live.

Sister communities

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
 
(page 5) 50 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] [email protected] 42 points 1 month ago (15 children)

If it's bad to use white actors for black (or other colored) roles then it's bad for black actors to do white roles. If it's okay to do those switches then it's okay for all. Forget colors it shouldn't matter.

Having said that, Disney just did the Ariel thing ffor the "look at us being sooooo progressive, please give us your money for this utterly shit movie" instead of trying to just make a great movie

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago (3 children)

The original actress/singer for Ariel absolutely dominated that role as well, and really the whole cast was damn near perfect. It’s one of the few Disney Princess movies that should have been left alone.

load more comments (3 replies)
load more comments (14 replies)
[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 month ago (4 children)

My issue is that we are pairing nationality with skin color or ethnicity here. Those are not mutually exclusive. There are 2nd or 3rd generation Asians immigrants in Mexico, just as there are Mexicans living in Ireland, and Irish people in India, etc.. Somebody could be a fully integrated national but not part if the nations major ethnicity. Even saying AFRICAN-American is kind of pointless, like it matters where your grand-grand-grand-grand-parents came from. They're as much American as anybody else. We don't call everybody else European-American for comparison.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Tbh I'm perfectly fine with other races picking up any roles, except for historical movies.

Another thing on historical movies that irk me to no end is the perfect posh English for every effing Roman or Greek movies

load more comments (1 replies)
load more comments (3 replies)
[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I mean tbf, all of the above have people enraged and people who dgaf, it's just those flip flop depending. I'm sure there's no shortage of people here, in this very thread, that aren't cool with say Native Americans being played by white people, or that Scarlet Johansen played that one lady from GITS (can't remember her name, never really got into that series, but she's supposed to be Asian.) Understandably so, really, but still.

I take it a step further personally, stop remaking anything and if you adapt say a comic or book, stick as close as humanly possible to the source material. Race/genderswapping and reboots for a moneygrab is cool or whatever but can we have good original stories again please?

load more comments (2 replies)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (3 children)

It's honestly really gross how the U.S. film industry works. There's a widely held belief that you basically have to have a white lead character in most films for it to be successful. Look at marvel, just as an example. Every single main character was a white man or woman. Iron Man, Captain America, Hulk, etc. All white people. Black Panther was the exception, not that he was even really part of the avengers officially. He wasn't really in their crew at their headquarters. But even the person who played vision, which was heavily dawdled in makeup... White person. That role could have been anyone! The dude looks like an alien, why did it have to be a white guy? Now look at Star Wars, another extremely popular franchise. Every single lead character is white without fail. Luke Skywalker, Anakin, the emperor, Leia, Han Solo, Kylo Ren, you name it, they are white. Mace Windu was the exception, and they just killed him off needlessly Like he was some inconsequential character even though he was literally the most important person in the entire Jedi order. Then Star Wars The Old Republic launched a video game and guess who is the leader of the Republic now? White woman.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

I'm pretty sure the Supreme Chancellor in SWTOR is a green woman after the white guy preceding her was offed.

The other side has a white woman queen, but to be fair, they are racists.

That said, I would agree white people are overrepresented among humans in SWTOR.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Mace Windu getting killed was the turning point and point of no return for the three film character arc of Anakin Skywalker. That's a long way from "needlessly". Sure the character didn't have to be killed, but the impact of him being betrayed and killed was enormous. The plot of the third film (and the entire prequel trilogy) culminated with his death scene.

load more comments (2 replies)
[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

To be fair in star wars, it's one big unhappy family.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

How was Highlander not included?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

Spanish and Scottish accents are basically identical.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

I mean, I'm kinda on their side with this. They majorly changed an iconic character who had a distinct appearance. Ariel is pretty much an icon of the 80's kids back before the internet, so the public zeitgeist was a lot more common and shared, rather than fractured with a girth of media options like it is now. Everyone knew and had an image in their head of Ariel.

Normies don't know who tilde Swinton's character in dr strange is, especially before but even after the movies.

To point out such things online is racist, or being a weirdo who's mad about a kids show. Yet here we all are, posting about it again.

load more comments
view more: ‹ prev next ›