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[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago

I agreed with the content of the essay.

Idk who chose the headline, cuz the author’s take is far more measured than that. (Probably an editor optimizing for clickbait?)

I would caution, though, that the author is specifically talking about:

  1. the creation of art
  2. the way AI is developed and deployed in our capitalist context

I think there are more valid concerns about AI beyond the scope of those two areas, but I can’t blame the author for focusing on their area of expertise.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago (8 children)

No, i'm pretty sure im also against AI. Im against artist not being paid for their work and being replaced by subpar machine learning regurgitating their art without any sense

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

that use for llms was cooked up by capitalism

it could very well be just another tool to assist artists

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago

When you say paid…

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (4 children)

You're against computers being able to understand language, video, and images?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

They don’t understand though. A lot of AI evangelists seem to smooth over that detail, it is a LLM not anything that “understands” language, video nor images.

There are uses for these kinds of models like semi-automating analysing large pools of data, but even in a socialist society the resources that allocated to do it like it is currently is completely unsustainable.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago (11 children)

They don’t understand though. A lot of AI evangelists seem to smooth over that detail, it is a LLM not anything that “understands” language, video nor images.

We're into the Chinese Room problem. "Understand" is not a well-defined or measurable thing. I don't see how it could be measured except from looking at inputs&outputs.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Does this mean that my TI-84 calculator was actually an AI since it could solve equations I put into it? Or Wolfram Alpha? Or a speed camera? These are all able to read external inputs to produce an output. At which point does your line go, because the current technology is nowhere near where mine goes.

We are currently ruining the biosphere so that some people might earn a lot of money by being able to lay off workers. If you remove this integral part to what “AI” is and all other negative externalities of course it will look better, but not all of the externalities are tied to the capitalist mode of production. Economies and resource allocation would still be a thing without capitalism, it isn’t like everything magically becomes good.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I'm against the current iteration of the buzzword that involves a bunch of wasted money being dumped into something that also generates a ton of energy use to get things somewhat correct rather than having it go towards actual needs we have affecting humanity.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Fusion's close to a core need of humanity.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Wait, you think fusion will be developed thanks to AI?

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

No, I haven't seen any major technological breakthroughs coming from language models, other than language models themselves. Have you?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

No. You want to suddenly change the subject to language models?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago (2 children)

What other type of current AI claims problem-solving capabilities?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

The entire field of Machine Learning, that has existed for decades, long before LLMs were even a theory?

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

The fusion ones for example

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

By fusion, what do you mean?

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