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[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I'm against the current iteration of the buzzword that involves a bunch of wasted money being dumped into something that also generates a ton of energy use to get things somewhat correct rather than having it go towards actual needs we have affecting humanity.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Fusion's close to a core need of humanity.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Wait, you think fusion will be developed thanks to AI?

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

No, I haven't seen any major technological breakthroughs coming from language models, other than language models themselves. Have you?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

No. You want to suddenly change the subject to language models?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago (2 children)

What other type of current AI claims problem-solving capabilities?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

The entire field of Machine Learning, that has existed for decades, long before LLMs were even a theory?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

This thread is funny. A few users are like "😡😡😡I hate everything about AI😡😡😡" and also "😲😲😲AI is used for technical research??? 😲😲😲 This is news to me! 😲😲😲"

Talk about no-investigation-no-right-to-speak. How can you have an opinion on a field without even knowing roughly what the field is?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

So, are there any results of technological achievements from any AI models that show a trend towards increasing solving of scientific and technical problems?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Yes. I mean, this is absolute basics.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago (2 children)

The very first link shows that this is incremental benefit that's been taking place since 2010. Computational tools are useful, but you're providing mostly links of algorithms/learning models to sort pictures for medical purposes and diagnosis (useful and cool), and saying that somehow that means fusion will be solved by AI

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago

Like if I go to Journal of Fusion Energyhttps://link.springer.com/journal/10894 – the latest article is titled 'Artificial Neural Network-Based Tomography Reconstruction of Plasma Radiation Distribution at GOLEM Tokamak' and the 4th-latest is 'Deep Learning Based Surrogate Model a fast Soft X-ray (SXR) Tomography on HL-2 a Tokamak'. I am sorry if that upsets you but that's the way the field is.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

I'm mostly answering the question I was asked: what are some examples of technical research in the field.

How can we solve plasma control without AI? And why exclude that tool?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I'm not saying we should exclude any tools, I'm just skeptical about the trend of calling everything AI, attributing all computational advances to AI, and jumping into the bandwagon of businesses trying to oversell any and all computating as AI.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

That's just cosmetic stuff. Why care about what words people use?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Because that's how you end up with dipshits calling federal funding of the CIA socialism.

Socialism is when the government does stuff. If it does a lot of stuff that's communism.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

That's the least plausible slippery-slope argument I have heard this month.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

And yet I can go to some TYT video or a DSA meeting and hear some dipshit lib say socialism is when the government does stuff IRL.

Hell, I can go find a few coworkers who say that too, and immediately follow it up with calling Kamala a communist and Biden a Maoist.

But I suppose that's A-okay with you since

That's just cosmetic stuff. Why care about what words people use?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

As you're trying to make a link between [using neural nets to research plasma control for fusion] and [Biden is a Maoist], I have no.reason to take you seriously.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago

You're advocating for the dilution of linguistic terminology and making it so you can smear people who hate dogshit stolen art as people who hate medical science.

The only person who shouldn't be taken seriously is you.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago

Because the words people use are very very important.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I think you’re going to need to link to some proof or example. You’re clearly using a definition of AI that’s broader than the colloquial definition everyone’s assuming you’re using.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago

Here is the latest edition of Nature Machine Intelligence, to give you a basic idea of the sort of research that in the AI field: https://www.nature.com/natmachintell/current-issue

Topics in Frontiers In Artificial Intelligence: https://www.frontiersin.org/journals/artificial-intelligence/research-topics

Foundations and Trends in Machine Learning: https://www.nowpublishers.com/MAL