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[–] [email protected] 28 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

Alternative opinion:
Car companies should stop making normal cars and instead only make hardcore vehicles. I'm talking race cars that are challenging and uncomfortable to drive.
manual only, aggressive clutches, loud gears, stiff suspension, non-adjustable seat, no heat, no ac, no radio, etc.

Then while they're making this change we expand the shit out of mass transport and infrastructure!

I can assure you that nobody wants to daily drive my race car. lol

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 months ago (12 children)

I want all of those things. I can assure you, I want to drive a V8 loud as fuck, manual thick clutched, wide tired, non AC, non radio, rear wheel drive, fucking street menace of a vehicle.

But I also want an absolute rehaul of our infrastructure to include high speed rail for the entire country, and comprehensive pricing that is subsidized by the government with my tax money and provided for free if I need it.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I’ve always wanted to do this in video form - have a montage of heroic car ads that just crossfade together with tons of shots of those gas guzzlers sitting at red lights and in traffic.

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[–] [email protected] 36 points 3 months ago (5 children)

I feel like a more accurate (though much less catchy) name for this community would be !fuckcarcentricsociety. Cars are awesome! They're fun to drive, feats of engineering, and in the right conditions like a rollercoaster without tracks. They just fucking suck when they're practically required to live. I'm as big a proponent for public transit, you shouldn't need a car to get to your job or grocery store, but you can't look at something like F1 and say that's not exhilarating.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 months ago (2 children)

but you can’t look at something like F1 and say that’s not exhilarating.

strong disagree. perhaps in the 60s and 70s - before we understood that ICE was spewing carbon dioxide and ruining the ecosystem sure.

Today? F1 is a fucking travesty - rich assholes burning crazy amounts of fuel to speed around in circles taking more from future generations every fucking lap.

If it were all electric powered by renewable resources harvested nearby I'd have less of an issue, but anything combusting is a giant middle finger to your own children. "Sorry skippy, even we knew, we still didn't give a fuck to stop the silly games."

[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 months ago (4 children)

Today? F1 is a fucking travesty - rich assholes burning crazy amounts of fuel to speed around in circles taking more from future generations every fucking lap.

While I don't disagree that spectating races is boring, the amount of CO2 those put out pale in comparison to commutator traffic or the container ships running bunker fuel. We could have EV races and if each manufacturer entered their base models, could help with adoption. We could also make the ICE races run biogas(methane from antibiotic digesters) or biodiesel(tractor pulls could easily adopt that with only a small lowering of performance that all the tractors would share).

but anything combusting is a giant middle finger to your own children.

All consumption is.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (4 children)

All consumption is.

consumption for production is one thing, entirely optional, benefitting only one party entertainment coming at the cost of everyone else?

that's a dick move.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago (1 children)

The emissions from 20 cars driving in circles for a few hours a week could continue until the end of humanity and still be just a drop in the bucket compared to the amount of damage the production industry has done up to this point.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

bud the bucket overflowed a long, long time ago. now it's pouring over the rim, and you're like: eh, it's just a few thousand tons of CO2 every year, for funsies, it won't matter.

it all matters. you're just too vroom vroom to fucking care.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago (2 children)

The emissions from the cars themselves isn't even 2000 tons of CO2. That's 1/200000 of 1% of annual emissions. If you're that concerned, you shouldn't be on this site because the server, your computer, and your router are all adding CO2 to the atmosphere.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (5 children)

it all matters. you’re just too vroom vroom to fucking care.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I agree the environmental impacts are certainly an issue, but the emissions from the sport alone aren't that bad, the worst is from all the travel done on private jets between locations. They've also done some work towards being more eco-friendly. The cars run hybrid V6s instead of V10s and by 2026 will use fully renewable biofuel. There's also Formula E, which is an entirely electric motorsport.

There's just some things an ICU can do that an electric motor can't. It's simply impossible to get the same amount of power as an F1 car from purely electric propulsion at the same weight.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 3 months ago (4 children)

so you know it's a problem, you know the sport's total footprint is the cause, you even point out THEY know it's wretched and are making half hearted efforts to someday maybe do something.

but you give them your attention.

There’s just some things an ICU can do that an electric motor can’t.

but it's entertainment, not some mission critical life saving thing, it's to watch cars go fast driving in circles.

fuck me, our civilization deserves to collapse.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

we deserve to collapse because we like to be entertained?

i wonder if what you used to type and send this comment onto the internet uses any sort of battery

[–] [email protected] -4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

we deserve to collapse because we like to be entertained?

when the specific entertainment is dicking around the ONLY FUCKIN' ATMOSPHERE WE HAVE yeah I think so.

you like the taste of smog? or is it simping for petroleum companies?

Or is the attraction fracking?

Watching the poles melt in real time?

Come on man, which is the part that gives you the entertainment?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

the part where the car go fast. DUH!

[–] [email protected] -3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

so why the fuck are you on /fuckcars lol

read the room vroom vroom

[–] [email protected] -1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

im not on fuckcars im on lemmy

[–] [email protected] -1 points 3 months ago (4 children)

you're on fuck cars you bellend, a community on lemmy. jfc

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago

I think you're forgetting the entire point of my original comment.

I feel like a more accurate (though much less catchy) name for this community would be !fuckcarcentricsociety.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 months ago

1969 and it is still relevant.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 months ago (1 children)

How I felt last week in my busted up 350k miles shitbox when there was a Lamborghini and Ferrari beside me crawling through traffic. Even once we were out of gridlock their average speed was probably the exact same as mine. My car costs probably 500 dollars and there's cost literally a 1000 times more than that. Made me feel good. Also made me feel like ramming them just because

[–] [email protected] 19 points 3 months ago (2 children)

As it turns out, road speed is limited by laws, safety and traffic, not the HP of your car engine.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago

Which perhaps makes the purchase more justifiable in Germany when you live within reach of the Autobahn…

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I love the groceries in the front seat because there's no room anywhere else.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago

Even though some sort of trunk or storage could totally fit without increasing the vehicle volume.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 months ago (1 children)

That's what I tell people. The reality of driving sucks. You might be in love with your fantasy of a 500 HP beast, but

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

meanwhile on an open mountain road on a Sunday afternoon

"Woooooo!!!!!"

Where you're driving is as important as what. You'd love to drive a Civic Type R.

In a hospital? Maybe not.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago

Nah, FL5 Type 5 has hill assist, rev match, anti stall, and brake lock. With really comfy bucket seats. At speed you got Honda's bitchin adaptive cruise control and lane keeping assist. It's as comfortable as a manual car can be for commuting and traffic. 10/10 would recommend as daily driver.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago (2 children)

The fact that it needs to be open means 99% of people can't be there, which includes 98% of 500 HP car owners.

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