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[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

Trump's been committed to ditching NATO & allying with Putin, his sponsor/mentor, for years.

There's even a bill on the table, now, called NATO, about the US ditching NATO.

Chopping social-systems will please, but NOT appease, Trump,

& it won't change his strategic-course, to ditch NATO & piecemeal butcher it, taking Greenland as a means of strangling Canada completely, then waging war against Canada, because Canada stands in his way..

then once Canada's down, destroying the hated woke EU in a pincer between Putin & him,

so that in the end, only Putin, Trump, Millei, Orban, etc, get to be "kings" over the butchered West, & unlimitedly unaccountable..

It isn't a zero-sum-game they're playing: it's a negative-sum-game ( mass-shooting, except through legislations, instead of bullets, killing entire-populations, not mere-individuals ),

& the longer it takes for people to grok that, the greater the percentage of our countries' lives they'll succeed in shedding.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

I don't even know why my country is still in this cesspool. NATO is nothing more than an American subsidiary that forces others to buy its shit. My country has the atomic bomb, which is the only necessary thing to guarantee our sovereignty in the very long term. No reason to invest 5% of our GDP in additional death machines, especially when our debt is astronomical.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago

If we don't win this war now that it's limited to Ukraine, Putin will spread it to first Baltics and then Finland once he his army has regained enough strength. Unless we have developed our defense capabilities sufficiently by that.

We need to be ready for the event that France and Germany decide that Ukraine should fall. And if at that point the only countries that have a serious ability to defend against the Russia are Finland, Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania, then the economy of northwestern EU will be in shambles. And that will definitely affect the rest of EU, including whatever country you are from.

If the whole EU is interested in repelling the Russia when it attacks, then it probably won't even attack. But if only the countries bordering it are interested in that, it abaolutely will attack the northeastern EU. And then your bread will get a lot more expensive.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 days ago

No shit Sherlock

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 days ago (1 children)

A lot of countries got lulled into a false sense of security by USA being in the NATO and Russia not outright attacking anyone for a moment and let their defence deteriorate. And now they're paying for it

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 days ago (2 children)

"Russia not outright attacking anyone"

Oh so we ignore that they also didnt free eastern europe and return their indipendence like they promised? Ignoring Afghistanistan, backing the communist rebels in greece, ignoring all the supression of any protest in their red empire, ehtiopia, blockading berlins supply. Okayyy.

And we arent paying for it because of the USA said so. We are because our politicians finally realise russia never was a peaceful nation and clearly prepares a war to invate the rest of europe

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 days ago

ignoring Afghanistan

Stop right there. Your argument is over. Goodbye.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 days ago

I mean those countries ignored those things. I'm saying they shouldn't have

[–] [email protected] 25 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Why can’t we just distance ourselves from this? Why must we appease him!? 😡

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 days ago

We dont lol Americans think we are because we increase the military spending. We are also not cutting social spending

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Hey European nations; Nice to know about how your sovereignty works.

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