"Freeloaders" : microblogmemes

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago

The duty of the working person is to pay tithes to the ruling class. But these workers are also using public services and benefiting from public works.

The only solution is to privatize more state functions, in order to make sure all immigrants continue to surrender their surplus value to the native aristocracy.

And no more eating! I don't want to see any Haitians who look well fed. We all know what that means. Haitians are supposed to be in a half starved state at all times. Otherwise, I just know they're up to something.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago (6 children)

I think that would average between $5.000 and $3.000 per undocumented immigrant.

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[–] [email protected] 39 points 4 months ago (4 children)

Posts like this are important, but unfortunately in vain, I'm afraid. Those who still don't understand it will never understand it. I think they don't want to. I don't get it.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I'd say it's still important to post and talk about, not for the people who know and don't care, but for the people who don't know and do care.

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[–] [email protected] 309 points 4 months ago (8 children)

Yes, but corporations pay into the system in other ways. Take for example the time Duke Energy had a big coal ash spill into a river. They took the income resources they had and not only paid a fair fine price, cleaned up the...

Wait. No they didn't. They passed on all the costs to their customers. Fortunately those customers were able to use the free market and choose another provider...

Wait. No, they can't. Huh. That IS a freeloader.

[–] [email protected] 51 points 4 months ago

Damn I hated you on those first lines 😂

[–] [email protected] 27 points 4 months ago

You had me going there for a minute

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Reading about The Bracero Program seems kind of wild in today's anti-immigrant US climate.

The Bracero Program (from the Spanish term bracero [bɾaˈse.ɾo], meaning "manual laborer" or "one who works using his arms") was a U.S. Government-sponsored program that imported Mexican farm and railroad workers into the United States between the years 1942 and 1964.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 months ago

Freeloaders are the people taking up dramatically more resources than the value one human can produce.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Damn, Sam Reichs father is really big on social media

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Trump is not a free-loader though!? And now that I've planted that thought... can you remind me why not exactly - asking for a friend? :-P

[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Well, he doesn't do work or create value.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)

He’s not a freeloader because he pays his fair share of taxes…. Wait a minute

He’s not a freeloader because he takes on the risks of a job creator, including any financial losses…. Crap, nope

He’s not a freeloader because when he contracts put work he pays on time what was agreed ….. can you see the pattern?

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[+] [email protected] -28 points 4 months ago (1 children)

He should change the name to Robert 4rd Reich.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Four-rd?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago

Ford

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago

Fourst

[–] [email protected] 103 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Its funny how much owning a successful business sound exactly like being a lazy, work-shy layabout who does nothing while living off of other people's hard work.

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[+] [email protected] -13 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (9 children)

How is the government getting taxes from people it doesn't know exist?? I thought you had to file your taxes yourself in America, why or how would the migrants even do that? Or if the employer is doing that, who do they say they are doing it for??

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

How is the government getting taxes from people it doesn’t know exist??

Going to the store and handing over my money for the stuff. There's a % sales tax at the bottom of my receipt, but how is this possible?! I didn't tell the government I was going shopping today.

Drive back home to my apartment, where I pay my rent for the month. My landlord forward a chunk of that money to the city as real estate taxes. But I never formally registered my citizenship at this address, so how can that be?

Heading to the bar where I earn my living. Most of my income is in tips, which my boss collects and skims the business tax rate off of before distributing the balance. But there's no bartender's license to work here, so how did he know to do that?

Omw home, I've got to remember to re-register my car and buy more gas-taxed petrol and damn it feels like there's a lot of ways for a government to collect tax money from me.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Could you not write this less condescending? I'm sorry I'm not from the US. When I heard people say that sales tax isn't included in the price and that you need to file your taxes every year I assumed that was how the tax was collected.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

This is a good question and should be upvoted.

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Filing taxes is how we get refunds for overpaying in the US.

Paying taxes is done for us, through withholding out of our paychecks (don't need a SS#, as a TIN will do here), sales tax on purchases of goods, and in other ways, like connected to housing, etc.

[–] [email protected] 48 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Undocumented migrants still pay taxes that are built into systems we interact with, like sales, rent, mortgage, etc. They also frequently have payroll taxes taken out, and even file taxes using an ITIN instead of SSN. They also can't capitalize on govt. programs like section 8 or social security, so they are only able to contribute to these funding pools. Undocumented migrants generate billions per year in taxes for the US.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 4 months ago (4 children)

While immigrants in the country without authorization do not have Social Security numbers, they can file taxes using an Individual Taxpayer Identification Number, or ITIN.

Reports about 3m people file using an ITIN each year, and the number of people expected to legally use them is very small.

Also says they see about $12B more paid into social security by illegals than paid out.

As Al Capone found, the government is would rather you pay tax on illegally earned money.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

Every couple months I learn of another way the us government interacts with 'undocumented' migrants. I find it supremely silly that these people have identification numbers, pay taxes, are counted for the census and participate in elections but they're still referred to as 'undocumented'?? They clearly are documented, wtf does 'undocumented' mean then?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Those are the wrong documents!

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Sales tax exists.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

Is sales tax included in prices? I've seen people online saying it's often not since it varies from place to place?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Correct, sales tax is not included in pricing in the US. I learned that at a fairly young age when I wanted to spend $20 I had from my birthday on a $20 Lego set when whoops, need another dollar (thankfully my mom was there to cover it)

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

In the states, sales tax is almost never included in the price.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Fact check immigrants taxes

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[–] [email protected] 79 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Racism is either a symptom or a tool:

Those who cant make sense of their situation being unsatisfactory may fall prey to it to soothe themselves.

Those who hoard all of the worlds wealth use it to distract from that fact.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 4 months ago (4 children)

Worth noting that a lot of the people raging about immigrants don’t see themselves as racist.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Or themselves as immigrants, for that matter.

A German settler calling a Hispanic migrant "illegal" really says something about the legal and social zeitgeist.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I have a quote that fits this situation well:

When you‘re dead, you do not know you are dead. Its only painful and difficult for others. The same applies when you are stupid.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago

Preach!

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