Rats…that company’s gonna miss out on all the fun.
this post was submitted on 17 Sep 2024
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what else does Mozilla have? matrix ? @[email protected]
It seems like there is no user named "Mozilla" on the lemmy.world instance. However, Mozilla does have a variety of other projects and services apart from Firefox and Thunderbird, such as:
- Mozilla Matrix: Mozilla operates an instance of the Matrix chat protocol. You can join and communicate on their Matrix channels.
- Mozilla VPN: A virtual private network service.
- Pocket: An application for managing a reading list of articles from the web.
- Common Voice: A project to help make voice recognition open and accessible to everyone.
- MDN Web Docs: Documentation for web technologies, including HTML, CSS, and JavaScript.
For more detailed information, you might want to visit the Mozilla website or their GitHub repository.
Until they change CEOs again. I wonder what it'd be like to not have corporate parasites everywhere
Lemmy support would be much more fitting for Mozilla. They could add plugin or lemmy integration to their browser that could show discussions from subscribed communities matching the current url.
Effectively acting as a "comment section" but for any page. One would only need lemmy account to comment on youtube videos, news articles, blogs etc.
Gab tried to pull the same thing with their Dissenter plugin. It was such a bad idea that Mozilla and Google banded together to remove the extensions from their stores for ToS violations.
Now imagine what a nightmare it would be to moderate the ability to comment on anything online with actual standards and decency.
Why was it a bad idea? Seems like a wonderful idea. Minus Gab.
Some kind of web of trust and inheriting ignored users based on it and weights - and it will work.
Sounds to me like an extension that by design tracks every Web page you visit.
Not necessarily and only those you comment.
That's the point, to comment any webpage. It's clear you visited it if you comment it.
Presumably it loads comments when you visit a page. That would send a request with the URL to whatever service they're running.
Unless you make a p2p system and search comments by page hash in some way (maybe just over I2P?) making it hard for other nodes to understand from which node it comes and which node downloads those comments.
OK, I agree. Not very good. But in theory it can be better.
I didn't want to rain on your parade, but:
- Firefox has hundreds of millions of users.
- Lemmy has less than half a million total users, and YTD MAU peaked at 52k.
Even putting aside technical details, I fail to see how "Lemmy integration in the browser" could be a good product strategy. A plugin/extension can also be developed by independent developers, which seems much more fitting for the size of the target demographic. Maybe I'm missing something.
Well since they were/are hosting Mastodon instance they do seem to have some interest in the fediverse. They do also have official plugins.
Personally I feel something like this could be the next step for social link aggregation and discussion platforms. Being able to share and discuss on about videos and articles without having to register to dozens or more pages while also having some control over the people you interract with through instances, subscribed communities etc.
Source media would also be unable to control what can or cannot be discussed. Many youtube videos and news articles for example may block all comments. It would be up to community on how to moderate discussion.
plugin/extension
that seems like the way to go for this
Yeah, something like 50k users is a drop in the bucket. It's a nice size for a community, but not big enough to warrant a browser feature.
Wow that might actually be amazing. A comment section for every page?
I swear Lemmy comments for YouTube had a feature that let you open it for any page, but it seems the GitHub and Firefox page been deleted.
Edit: Looks like I've still got a fork: https://github.com/Steve-Tech/Reddit-Comments-for-YouTube (it says Reddit, but works for Lemmy too)
Think of all the tracking data!
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Im on your side, just need a way to protect the users.
Putting a frame under every url you browse to needs to be done right™️
Do they at least have an account on someone else's instance then? If they do, it's fine for them to not have to spend resources on maintaining their own.
Good. Stop fucking around, focus on the browser. If they can make it provide value that Google can't, they are succeeding. Google cant compete in privacy.
They are dropping it to focus on the important shit. Forcing bullshit genai stuff into their browser and working on adtech.
Got to love ignorant hot tapes based on article headings.
Forcing bullshit genai stuff into their browser
It's an opt-in feature that just opens whatever AI service you picked, their website in a sidebar. You can even use your own local AI if you want to. Or not use it at all. But the AI isn't actually in your browser any more than it is in your browser when you open their website in a tab.
If the translation thing counts as AI then that's actually a really cool and more private use of it compared to querying a server. It can do the translation completely locally. Works pretty well too in my experience, though it does think for a moment when you tell it to translate.
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