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I have been using kodi but it just so limited and clunky. Android TV is better but that is a major challenge since Android TV is very tied to Google with not much existing outside of Google.

What I am looking for is a device that can work with mostly Jellyfin. I don't use any streaming services. It would need to work flawlessly with a remote and I am looking for something that maintains itself mostly.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago (2 children)

For most of the Samsung TVs with the dogshit Tizen OS, you can use TizenTube to block YouTube ads within the TV OS and not requiring any new hardware.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

How "big" are your movies and tv shows? If they are 4k UHD remuxes then Nvidia Shield Pro or Apple TV 4k behind a firewall to block external internet is your best option for performance, usability, and privacy. You will want to ocassionally allow it internet for software updates. Kodi, a mini pc, raspberry pi, etc. would be more private but you trade off a seamless remote, easy interface, and streaming codecs (e.g., dolby vision).

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

The Nvidia shield can run Lineage which is a option.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

RPi with minidlnad, all devices at home from computers, phones, tablets, video projector, even VR HMD, can play content with e.g VLC.

Very quick to install (basically have a media directory with your videos inside) and still very flexible, e.g new content is added simply by copying from any other device with access, e.g scp which itself can be a script after downloading something.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Use the jellyfin kodi addon works very smoothly. I've been using it for two years and love it. I replaced all my chromecasts with kodi. It even has the approval of my wife.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

It isn't bad but it does leave something to be desired. Mostly a UI that doesn't require going though submenu after submenu. Also my remote control doesn't work with kodi as it can't handle key codes greater than 255

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago

It even has the approval of my wife.

He is the chosen one! Hail him!

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

I've been using a Chromecast with Google tv, and have deprived my tv my WiFi credentials. 90% of what I watch is from my Plex server, 9% other streaming services, 1% digital antenna.

It's not an ideal situation but as you know because you asked the question, the privacy situation in TVs is dire. Otherwise you're doing ridiculous shit like plugging computers into it or whatever.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I've heard an nvidia shield with lineageOS is really quite good!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

What software do you use? I assume it is Google free

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

I use a steamdeck with jellyfin installed. It's not its main purpose but works well enough

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

even though Microsoft clearly wants to push Windows 10 users to Windows 11

does it still require a pointless hardware upgrade? then no, they clearly fucking don't.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Because they want to make money. The get a licensing money for big OEMs. It probably was the OEMs who were pushing Microsoft to make everyone upgrade. They want to continue selling computers at a high rate.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (7 children)

Cheapest TV you can find that has the specs that you are interested in combined with a $50 pawn shop laptop and an inexpensive wireless keyboard and mouse.

Linux is optional but highly encouraged.

Connect that to a USB dac which is then piped into an amplifier for 2.0 sound.

I could probably rig up a subwoofer for a little extra oomph but none of the amplifiers I found at the thrift store have a way to turn off a powered amp or power an unpowered one.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I have a portable USB/Bluetooth DAC with jack, that get's me high quality music if rigged to my pc and can switch to phone/tv-box with a tap.

Doesn't annoy my neighbors and is a better DAC than those built in wireless earbuds.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

Recently got this for my laptop/TV in the bedroom, this thing is awesome.

It's a keyboard/touchpad/basic IR remote

https://a.co/d/5UbzJGv

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

Another option would be one of the t95 Android boxes. There are some really great tutorials on how to replace their stock firmware with a Linux and get all of the activity and availability that you would typically need as a media box out of them for just you know $25 and 3 to 8 hours of your time depending on how tech savvy you are and what your luck of the draw is.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

Nvidia shield is an option you should check out.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

I have recently switched a second tv to kodi and I‘m very happy. I had an appletv but it is just so limited and reminds me that I dont really own that device. Now I can play retro games, watch all my movies, listen to music and see my favorite pictures without having to use apples ecosystem or paing them for being able to use my device.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago (5 children)

I use a raspberry pi with LibreElec/Kodi. It works with the HDMI-CEC, meaning I control it with the TV remote.

Jellyfin can be used as a source for movies and stuff with a plugin.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Any offline or disconnected smart TV, pi 4 with Kodi (LibreElec), Steam Link, blu-ray player, AVR, and a Logitech Harmony remote to tie it all together. We have a huge disc collection that we've ripped and we also grab media from the library.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (7 children)

I really dig my tcl roku tv. Ultra cheap and has plex/jellyfin. Has 1 ad on the main screen that can be easily blocked but can also be setup to insta launch an app on boot. These tvs also have decent latency in game mode too (my most important requirement).

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (3 children)

I remember that roku TVs refuse working until you connect it to the internet. their values/intentions are clear, I wouldn't give money to them

edit: they also require registering a roku account

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Personally, I just use a raspberry pi with flex launcher. Not sure about remote though

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Thank you for sharing this, it looks really promising

I'm tired of only hearing of Kodi suggested in threads like this. I don't get why it's so popular, it's confusing for non-tech oriented people, you can't stream, YouTube functionality is questionable, the interface is dated looking and IMO an eyesore...

Some people like Kodi and that's great but it sucks balls for other people and there's barely ever any mention of any sort of alternative (like your comment)

These threads are usually just:

"I need a device or software for watching tv that works with a remote"

Kodi Kodi Kodi jUsT uSe A lApToP Kodi Kodi Laptop + HDMI cable

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

Yeah, as much as I love Kodi it is simply not meant for what I want to do, streaming that is.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago

It should be feasible to get the remote working under Wayland

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago (4 children)

I use an amazon fire tv 4k, I only use it to start jellyfin. It's perfect.

If you don't want it to phone home, put it behind a firewall, and block all but your domains

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 4 months ago (4 children)
[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago (1 children)

+1 that's what I do at home with my desktop and what is IMHO the best solution.
Yet on vacation I use an old android box with Android Tv (SlimTv) and I have to say it's nice to have a dedicated interface allowing use of a remote.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (7 children)

Okay, but then the TV is still running all the same spyware.

Update: just disabling wifi doesn't guarantee 100% privacy anymore on a densely populated area. Nowadays you've stuff like Amazon Sidewalk and who knows who's partner and what devices are in it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

Pihole is your friend.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Deny it wifi credentials and it has nowhere to send the stuff it's spying on

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Do you need an in-remote microphone? If not, I'd suggest a degoogled nvidia shield tv (i.e flash it with lineage OS or similar)

[–] [email protected] -4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Not a bad option. However, apps are lacking and I don't want Google

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Lineage OS doesn't include google apps or services. Jellyfin works though.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago (1 children)

You can debloat an NVIDIA shield android tv box, replace the default launcher, then install whatever else you want. It’s probably not perfect but it’s pretty darn good. That’s what I use and it can be updated without losing any of my customization.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I don't own one but I agree, it ist very good. But it's too expensive for what it is nowadays. A second hand one or maybe the next generation might be worth it again

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

Yeah we looked into a shield recently because we know someone who has one and we really liked it, plus I've heard it can be locked down and side loaded decently

But then we saw the price of one and are not willing to spend more than half the cost of a brand new 4k tv on a little box to stream from our media server and Netflix...

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Jellyfin + Apple TV + Infuse = Bliss

[–] [email protected] -1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Apple TV only works on Apple hardware and isn't great for privacy or freedom. No thanks.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 4 months ago (1 children)

The "Apple TV" is Apple hardware.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Exactly. It is locked down and does not respect your freedom

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago (4 children)

What can you do on your android tv that you can do on an Apple TV?

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Put them behind a firewall in the guest network.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Who?

I'm looking for a TV desktop environment

[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 months ago (1 children)

We've been using an Apple TV. From memory, there's a Jellyfin client.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

Apple isn't exactly my go to company especially for privacy and freedom

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