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I like both, but usually prefer Ubuntu (slrpnk.net)

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[–] [email protected] 36 points 4 months ago (6 children)

Hasn't Debian relaxed its stance and now allows you to fairly easily use nonfree software?

[–] [email protected] 15 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Yes this meme is dated. You can run proprietary stuff in bookworm with just a couple of check boxes.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 4 months ago (8 children)

Debian includes proprietary software just like Ubuntu does.

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[–] [email protected] 74 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Ubuntu forks that ditch snap > Ubuntu

[–] [email protected] 33 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (10 children)

I wouldn't even mind snap so much but the day I found out apt would automatically use snaps instead for some packages with no easy opt out was a step too far.

Drop it, snaps are dead. All hail FlatPak.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 4 months ago (6 children)

Yeah, why does Ubuntu keep snap?

Like, WTF is the deal with not having any official way to install Firefox other than snap? Firefox.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 months ago

This is coming from the same company that put Amazon ads on the dash

[–] [email protected] 28 points 4 months ago

Because canonical, who make ubuntu, also make snap. So it gets shoved down your throat. This is why I don't use Ubuntu.

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[–] [email protected] 113 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Use whatever fits your use case. Hell build a LFS distro. That's why it's YOUR computer.

The penguin is the messiah of freedom.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 4 months ago

Sometimes its not my computer though, sometimes its a server at work and it needs pure debian. It does not need snap. It does not need ubuntu-advantage.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago

And Xenia is the messiah of...?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 months ago (1 children)

i would like a Live For Speed distro

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[–] [email protected] 78 points 4 months ago (4 children)

Ubuntu is just Debian with adware

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Saying "you can use Ubuntu pro" is not intrusive at all

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago

No - and if they left it at that it would be great. I had to clean up 25 devices that had ububtu Lts, and that advantage had enabled the repos for thst shit, so apt wouldnt even do a dist-upgrade to prepare for do-release-upgrade.

Its not just the OS either, they are cancer to oss with their mixed «community» and enterprise stuff.

They only ever open source as little as they can.

Sell services, not code

[–] [email protected] 24 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (3 children)

Do feel it is designed to scare normal users though.

Like how the GUI software updater now shows a list of security updates, and then “there are more security updates available with Ubuntu pro” in the list of updates…. the obvious implication is “you’re computer has other known vulnerabilities that can only be fixed if you pay up”.

Liiittlle bit ransomey and let be honest that’s by design.

Wouldn’t consider myself part of the anti canonical pitchfork crowd but that new behaviour did irk me somewhat.

If Microsoft did that people would be up in arms. Appreciate canonical provide Ubuntu is free but normal users wouldn’t get that nuance as they don’t think they pay for windows.

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

yeah, messing with apt just to push a service really doesn't sit well. And they don't stop there, snaps are preferred over apt packages in Ubuntu Land.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 4 months ago

Snaps suck so much!

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago

I see you've got the spirit of this meme

[–] [email protected] 26 points 4 months ago (4 children)

Are the Ubuntu ads in the room with us right now? The only thing I remember is apt telling you about Ubuntu Pro. At that point Plasma is adware too for advertising their donation page.