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    [–] [email protected] 13 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

    They are good distros for beginners. But over time some people switch to Arch-based systems or NixOS. Because of HUGE software list that you can install without much hassle, you don't have to add 3-rd party repositories or PPAs or figure out how to install .tar.gz package in your system or how to compile from source. You just type one command to install something hard to obtain in other distros.

    [–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    If something isn't on nixpkgs and doesn't have an appimage I generally just don't use it lol gotta be the biggest package repo excepting maybe the aur

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    [–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

    What if I want both? Is there a ububian? Or a debuntu?

    Edit: /j

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

    I'm sure this is a joke but Ubuntu is Debian at the core.

    [–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

    This is humor, yes. I mostly just wanted a reason to say those combination names

    [–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

    You could run one and use the other within a distrobox container I suppose

    [–] [email protected] 11 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

    I used to use Ubuntu in the past, and it wasn't Unity, Upstart, Bazaar, Mir, Launchpad, Snap, Amazon ads integration etc. that convinced me to look elsewhere, it was that I found out how other, not commercial distributions, integrated and instrumented its user base into their development.

    Instead of having to sign a CLAs when contributing and signing your right away to some corporation, you become part of the community. (Update: It seems they have switched from their Copyright assignment, so something not as invasive in 2011, which is good. But they still require you to sign a CLA.)

    So always look who is developing the distribution first, are they individuals or is it one company. And don't let yourself be bated into the dependency of one company, because then you will be the victim of enshittyfication eventually.

    [–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    I see a lot of references to Ubuntu being filled with ads or scaring people into buying their services, but I've been daily driving it for over 15 years on personal desktops and servers and never noticed that. What have I missed?

    I never saw the Amazon ad stuff, I hear it was a referral link?

    Last I checked Ubuntu Pro is free for personal use on up to 5 machines.

    I use apt to manage all my packages and upgrades, including dist-upgrade, maybe that's why I've never noticed snap? Why does snap suck?

    [–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago

    Last I checked Ubuntu Pro is free for personal use on up to 5 machines.

    It's not free. It's traded for your personal information.

    [–] [email protected] 14 points 4 months ago (1 children)

    Snaps are a closed-source proprietary packaging format that Canonical controls. And they have also altered apt on Ubuntu to download snaps first before native packages. You may be using snaps right now without realizing it, which is also part of the issue.

    [–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

    Snaps themselves are a GPLd format

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    [–] [email protected] 21 points 4 months ago (1 children)

    Linux Mint Debian edition! 💪

    [–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)

    The regular version uses a lot of Ubuntu resources but doesn’t have snaps either.

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)
    [–] [email protected] 9 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    That’s the proprietary app container system pushed by Canonical who maintains Ubuntu. That’s as opposed to something more widely accepted like flatpak. I’m not an expert on everything Canonical has done to piss of the FOSS community, but I think snaps are the biggest one.

    And in regular old Linux Mint Cinnamon you don’t have to deal with that, and you can still lean on Ubuntu’s apt repositories.

    [–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    Don't forget that they're buddy buddy with amazon, and have even included amazon sourced ads within the OS at one point.

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    [–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

    Ahh OK. Thanks for the info. I used flatpak on cinnamon now. I prefer KDE but its just hard to beat Mint.

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