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I'm a nurse and oversaw a doctor checking his bank statements: his salary is a bit more than twice what I earn.

This is not a particularly productive doctor, if you listen to several doctors and nurses where I work at. Just today I overheard a group of 3 female doctors ranting about him and how all he does is sitting and playing with his phone, always redirecting us nurses to talk to the other doctors. I was surprised, because I never expected to find so much drama between doctors, them being much more educated than nurses and I never expected doctors, specially female doctors, to use that kind of language.

This lazy doctor earns more than double my salary. It's depressing.

But I also feel like a loser, because even those ranting doctors earn more than twice what I do... and they get to sit for longer than I do.

Regretting my life choices.

Maybe the sane choice here would be to study or to get a certification that means a higher salary?

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

Only double? Honestly I would have thought more.

We live in a world where most jobs compensation is determined by the difficulty of the program. Medical doctor is very hard to get into and hard to do. Sounds like the problem now is that he's lazy. Don't get me wrong, nursing is hard work. But that's how the cookie crumbles.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

There will always be someone making more than you. The only person you should be competing against is yourself, to reach your goals in life. If your goals are to become a doctor, then go back to school and do it.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Think you probably went into the wrong career if your aim was to earn a lot of money, if wages are similar to the UK.

Even if they somehow got sacked for being lazy or whatever, it doesn’t affect your salary, so I wouldn’t really obsess about it? It obviously takes a lot more training to become a doctor and that’s why they’re paid better. Along with the massive responsibility. I’m sure it’s a stressful job and it could be that those other doctors just don’t like that doctor and so are talking shit about them. You don’t monitor this doctor the whole day (if you do then it sounds like you’re not doing your job very well), so you can’t really say how he spends all his time.

Maybe he’s just coasting now, having done the hard stuff. But he had to do the hard work beforehand to get qualified. But yeah if you wanna be a doctor and think you can do it then make that your aim I guess?

Of course you could earn more money doing another job completely unrelated to healthcare if you trained up and progressed enough.

If you enjoy your job then I wouldn’t worry. If you don’t then try to retrain.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago

I think you're on the right track. First, especially with your experience, do the work and become the doctor you want them to be. And buy a Porsche.

Second, how much work did that person do to earn the degree? How much debt did that person incur?

I've seen many times where a person with lesser education outperforms a "superior." It's not really fair, but getting the degree and then the job...that's just the way it is.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago

I would also ask yourself how often and how long you work compared to this doctor. I think standard for nurses is 3-4 shifts per week. Doctors work much more than this and often have out of work responsibilities as well. The hourly rate is much closer than you make it out to be.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 3 months ago

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago

Life's unfair. Always has been and always will be. Imagine someone making half what you make, and sitting less, and not feeling like a loser about it.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 months ago (1 children)

What about "That kid inhert his wealth from his dad and do nothing while i have to work paycheck to paycheck"

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 3 months ago

If it helps at all, if you do your job right follow the doctors orders and administer care and medications as instructed you are next to impossible to be held responsible for the patient having negative outcomes. A doctor, even a hard working one who knows their shit well and does their absolute best is still under the constant threat of a career ending lawsuit from a patient.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

You don't accept it, because that's bullshit. You also don't accept that it's somehow your fault that society (and your employer) is okay with that kind of injustice.

I think there are two sane choices, you named one that's really a good idea cause you do not have to take that shit.

The other one would be sharing this situation with other nurses, forming a union or joining one, and going on strike. Letting the hospital see how well it functions when only those lazy doctors doing 1% of the necessary work and getting 2 thirds of the cake show up.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago

I'm a doctor and my partner is a nurse and the size of the difference is straight up injustice. Join your union and vote for militant leaders that will push for better conditions and salaries. If you don't fight you lose

[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 months ago (2 children)

If you're in the US, run for Congress, win, reform the medicaid backed doctor residency program, with the aim of opening it up so many more people can become doctors. Then watch as the new supply brings down salaries, and eventually gets lazy/ineffective doctors fired. Revenge is a dish best served nation wide, as they say.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

#Capiltalism #OnlySystemThatWorks #BlessedToBeACapitalist

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Lol @ the absolute delusion on display here.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

Nobody is that regarded, I say sarcasm?

[–] [email protected] 40 points 3 months ago (1 children)

This lazy doctor earns more than double my salary. It’s depressing.

Wait until you find out how lazy people with inherited wealth are...and they make way more than double your salary in passive gains.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Double than ANY of our salaries with their passive gains. Few of the working class are failures, only the system

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

Orphan crush machine requires Orphans to crush

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago

Many trades pay big money just for having the knowledge more than doing work. Being capable =/= Doing lots of work necessarily. I know people being paid big bucks to do nothing until a specific job comes up that requires their niche knowledge. That knowledge can be so hard to find or capable people so sparse that it's worth paying a lot to have that value on retainer.

Maybe that Dr. Is a specialist? Maybe there's shortage? There's plenty of possible reasons, including that person just being a bad worker. Regardless, they definitely spent near a decade to gain enough knowledge and skill to aquire that position. That's gonna come with a larger salary.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago

Check with your employer if they will help with your continued education somehow. My employer, for example, will reimburse some tuition costs if you get a degree while working there.

As a nurse you can continue up to and including a PhD. Or you can go to medical school and become an MD. There are many options. Try to find a few that sound interesting and learn more about them.

If you feel you have unused potential, maybe making a change in your career is just what you need. Even if you just look into what it would take, it could put things in perspective for you.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

Fun side note: When I'd remoted into our medical client's workstations, there were more than a handful of occasions where the recipient on the other end had only just finished frantically closing out Netflix tabs.

Things like this make me hope very much that I my physical health holds out for decades to come.

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