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[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 months ago (3 children)
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[–] [email protected] 116 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I think the steam deck is genuinely the only console worth buying these days.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 3 months ago (18 children)

I REALLY want Sony to release a handheld that can run PS1, PS2 and PS3 games 🥺

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 3 months ago (2 children)

It's too expensive. $500 is already too much for these things.

But capitalism's gotta capitalism.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 3 months ago (6 children)

$700 is actually probably a fair price for a PS5. You can't really build an equivalent PC for less than that. $900 to $1,200 would probably be close to how much manufacturing the PS5 Pro costs.

But PSN subsidizes these costs, which is why these systems can be this "affordable".

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[–] [email protected] 41 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Unfortunately, physical media for gaming died when always-online DRM was normalized. It doesn't matter if you have a game on a disc when you have to phone home every time to use it. The corporation may still block your access.

One more step in ensuring no one owns anything. Lease or rent are your options.

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 3 months ago (2 children)

799€ here, 920€ with a disc drive. That is stupidly insane for a console. We're almost breaking the 1000€ barrier for an "upgrade", not even the new generation.

I'd bet my money Sony is just testing the grounds to see if they can set PS6 price in a few years over the 1k barrier.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 3 months ago (2 children)

There's little incentive to not go with a gaming PC instead, or to not just wait for the PS6 since I'm sure it will be cheaper

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

It was pretty much a given that this would happen, since there were already options with and without disc drives.

And obviously sooner or later gaming will probably move to an entirely online service like streaming.

It's just a matter of time until the internet and worldwide coverage is ready for it. I always imagined that in a distant future we'd basically only buy a controller, that connects to an app that'll let you stream. And every game will be in a subscription service like a Netflix.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Nah, they won't do streaming cuz it's too expensive.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago

Sony has been on a roll with the boneheaded products nobody wants.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago (3 children)

700 is insane. I guess I’ll wait for the PC release of Wolverine instead of playing it on the base PS5 then. Sony really shit the bed this cycle.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

They got off to a great start with the PS5, but as their lead grew over their only real direct competitor, they became a good example of the problems with monopolies all over again.

This is straight up back to PS3 launch all over again, as if they learned nothing.

Right on the tail end of a horribly mismanaged PSVR 2 launch.

We still barely have any current gen only games, and a $700 price point is insane for such a small library to actually make use of it.

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[–] [email protected] 45 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (5 children)

At $700 you could build a pretty decent PC that would last a lot longer (3060 12gb, Ryzen 5 5600, 16gb of DDR4), and build a steam library that you'll have 20 years from now. I've had the same monitor, keyboard and mouse for an easy 10; controllers don't last that long. They're reaching a point where there's less and less of an actual argument for owning one.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Replace the 3060 with an equally-priced AMD card and you'll actually get something decent for your money. Nvidia is horrible at these "lower" price points.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I’ve had the same monitor, keyboard and mouse for an easy 10;

I guess it depends on frequency of use, but I've never had a mouse last ten years. I wear through the switch on the mouse button in less than that, starts to act unreliably.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago

And something that can run PS3, PS2 and PS1 games!

I'm sorely disappointed that none of that fancy AI-powered Sony upscaling can be put to use to any of those old games.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 3 months ago (6 children)

It's kinda rich to plug Steam, where you also don't own your games.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago

Well for Steam at least the library is independent of the hardware

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[–] [email protected] 43 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (4 children)

build a steam library that you'll have 20 years from now

How do you know that Steam will be around in 20 years?

Use GOG instead. The DRM-free game installers will outlive Steam :)

[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 months ago (2 children)

How do you know that Steam will be around in 20 years?

Use GOG instead, since the DRM-free game installers will outlive Steam :)

How do you know Windows will keep compatibility in 20 years? Valve money partially goes into Proton/WINE development and an evolution of that will absolutely be around in 20 years, just WINE was around 20 years ago already. CD Project doesn't put any GOG/Cyberpunk money into breaking the Windows monopoly. (Also plenty of titles on Steam come without DRM because DRM is optional.)

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

How do you know Windows will keep compatibility in 20 years?

I didn't mention Windows anywhere in my comment? GOG has Linux versions of games too, for games with Linux ports.

plenty of titles on Steam come without DRM because DRM is optional

That's true - for the DRM-free Steam games, you can just keep a separate backup copy of the game files. They usually run fine without Steam installed.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

My GOG games run great on wine, it just takes a bit more work to install them. Wine has better support for early windows games than windows does now.

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