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[–] [email protected] 28 points 2 months ago (4 children)

I say call their obvious bluff.

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[–] [email protected] 46 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Democrats should just threaten to shut down the government unless republicans suck Donald Stumps dick in response. Super easy, next question

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago

They probably want to make the minimum age to vote 50 years old. That's pretty sad.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago (2 children)

How can they think this will do anything other than make them look bad?

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 months ago

They don't care, so long as those who dislike them can't vote.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

They demand Dems give them something to campaign on by threatening to do something Dems could then use to campaign against them?

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (7 children)

Cure this by actually voting. Fire these fuckers!

You can! NOW!

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[–] [email protected] 105 points 2 months ago (8 children)

Dems need to draw a line in the sand here and do some of the campaigning on this

"They are so afraid that they would rather shut down government than allow votes"

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[–] [email protected] 127 points 2 months ago (4 children)

Do it, yah fucking whinny-ass man-child.

Shut the fucking government down because you’re afraid of fucking democracy.

[–] [email protected] 44 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I think "fucking democracy" is their end goal here.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Pretty sure that’s how you catch liberty… and they think it’s an std

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Sexually transmitted democracy eww 🤢

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago

Mint the damn trillion-dollar coin

[–] [email protected] 62 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Republicans choose conservatism over democracy, and they lose the more people vote.

[–] [email protected] 52 points 2 months ago (3 children)

I don’t think they are conservatives, although they call themselves that. Democrats are conservatives.

Classic conservatives conserve: this is a mob who could not individually list one thing they want to keep from changing. They want as much change that makes them the most money

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

Preservation of an existing thing and conservative political ideology aren't actually linked. No matter how much conservatives try to tell you they are. Classic Conservatism was just how 17th and 18th century political philosophers referred to monarchies and top down systems that impose order on the masses. This was in opposition to Classical Liberalism which was a bottom up imposition of order. I.e. by the people, for the people.

In many ways the South came out of the revolution still subscribed to classical conservatism. They favored a heavy class system, different rules for the elite and workers, and were loathe to expand voting beyond the elite. Even after the civil war they made the antebellum period their golden age. It wasn't until the post world war 2 era offered Neo-Liberalism that they really gave up trying to go back to the antebellum period. There were even slave-like conditions called peonage right up to the mid 1940s.

One of the biggest differences in classical conservatism and liberalism was what they called, the state of nature. Liberals saw all men as inherently good, but taught to be evil by oppression and stressful environmental factors. Conservatives saw all men as inherently evil and in need of strong control. Their theories followed pretty well from those base assumptions. Although there was also a healthy dose of Divine Rule in conservatism.

I'm mentioning this because I hope everyone reading this can realize the Republicans of the cold war, as racist and hateful as they were, were still inside classical liberalism. They still believed in democracy, rule by the people, for the people. Since the end of Bush's presidency though they've increasingly decided classical conservatism is more attractive.

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[–] [email protected] 183 points 2 months ago (2 children)

They threaten/shit down the government every other issue... Like a toddler having a tantrum.

[–] [email protected] 54 points 2 months ago (1 children)

shit down the government

I don't know if this was a typo, but it's rather appropriate either way.

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