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[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago

U dont get it do you? What makes you think other people have to pay and you dont?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago

So we know someone's okay with laws being broken, but we're just not sure how much crime this person's cool with. If you want more crime than I do, and you're thus wanting reduced safety for everyone, are you then really different from 'muh raghts' anti-vax weenies who want to carry Whooping Mumps at will and kill my grandma?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I saw that the NY transit system made 5.8 billion last year. The 150 million has nothing to do with fare jumpers and everything to do with forcing most people to pay. If it was well known that there is no punishment for not paying, why would anyone pay?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago

There's lots of little stuff I could "get away with" but font because I feel like it would harm others. I donate, I return carts, I try to clean up, I'm happy to pay taxes that help people who need it, and just hate how it gets misappropriated for war and the rich. I give tips, I try to be polite and helpful in games, with people online, with people in person, etc.

Not everyone wants to get away with something. Lots of us understand we're part of a community and if we all slack off completely it'll fail. So I do what I can, I purchase works I already read but enjoy and want author to make money off of, etc, as long as I can afford it.

Do I still pirate stuff? Of fucking course I do. However, if it's within my means and I enjoy the product, I feel like I should give back. He'll, it's hard for me to use restrooms in restaurants without at least buying something from the dollar menu or something.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Can someone please post the source of this statement?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago

The key word is caught.

They are comparing the ENTIRE COST of fare enforcement to the individuals actually caught and fined for fare evasion (and even then only for individual trips when they likely were evading fares for some time). It ignores the massive amount lost to fare evasion, and all the people that paid because they wished not to be caught.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago

They can't. The headline is misleading if not completely invented. The city lost $690 million to fair evasion in 2022 and likely a similiar number in 2023. Source https://www.transittalent.com/articles/index.cfm?story=New_York_MTA_Fare_Evasion_5-17-2023

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (2 children)

What does your caption mean, OP?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago

It's a reference to the British Conservative party's plan to send immigrants seeking asylum who come to the UK to Rwanda. It's hopefully not going to pass through parliament because it's a horrible idea.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago

My interpretation was that OP was trying to come up with an even bigger way of wasting money the cops could use to "fix" the problem.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

The L.A. train system (at least when I lived there) had no turnstiles. It was mostly on the honor system. They did have transit cops that would randomly check to see if you had a ticket, but there weren't hundreds of them or anything. You'd see one on occasion.

Somehow the trains are still running.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

That's how it works in Europe, at least in cities I've visited (mostly Germany).

If we'd see public transit as a public good, rather than something that's supposed to be a profit center, maybe we could be a little smarter about it...

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Yes! In Luxembourg it's just free. All busses, trains, funicular, trams, in the whole country, for everyone. Great way to encourage less car use, more active lifestyles, and improve quality of life while also helping the economy.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago

As a small side comment, Luxembourg is beyond tiny, like the size of New York but with a fraction of the people of New York loving it in, and it's also super rich. I'm guessing that makes it quite easy to do things right.

But yeah, public transportation can rock of done right

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