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[–] [email protected] -1 points 10 months ago

Hey, assbutt!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Yeah I remember being taught in church about forgiveness and love. And then taught about Lucifer being kicked out to hell forever, no chance of redemption. It didn’t make sense to me, even as a kid. I think I asked a Sunday school teacher about it and got a nonsensical rationalization.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

It's just nonsensical rationalizations all the way down.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Probably because the whole Lucifer Story is apocryphic and was pierced together/made up by church teachers. It doesnt fit with the message of the New Testament one bit.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Also, most of the Bible is stolen from other religions & spiritualities that existed around before it was all codified.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

"Stolen" is a bit of a harsh word, it was normal for the various religious cults back then to influence each other

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Dude I'm pretty Sure there wasnt a person going "I'll steal this from another religion". That's not how things go

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

That’s exactly how it goes. They take from other religions so it’s easier for their religion to take hold.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

expanding on this, even the existence of eternal hell is fairly controversial among theologians. this is from the page on [Christian Univeralism]:(https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_universalism)

The first clear mention of endless misery is to be found in a work from 155 to 165 AD by Tatian.[18] According to theologian Edward Beecher, in the first four centuries there were six main theological schools and only one of them advocated the idea of eternal hell.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

At last, a greentext that doesn't seem to be made up for internet kudos.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

actually I don't think OP is really Lucifer