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Fifty-nine percent of Americans think Biden and Trump too old for another term (abcnews.go.com)

submitted 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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e; I wrote a better headline than the ABC editors decided to and excerpted a bit more

According to the poll, conducted using Ipsos' Knowledge Panel, 86% of Americans think Biden, 81, is too old to serve another term as president. That figure includes 59% of Americans who think both he and former President Donald Trump, the Republican front-runner, are too old and 27% who think only Biden is too old.

Sixty-two percent of Americans think Trump, who is 77, is too old to serve as president. There is a large difference in how partisans view their respective nominees -- 73% of Democrats think Biden is too old to serve but only 35% of Republicans think Trump is too old to serve. Ninety-one percent of independents think Biden is too old to serve, and 71% say the same about Trump.

Concerns about both candidates' ages have increased since September when an ABC News/Washington Post poll found that 74% of Americans thought Biden -- the oldest commander in chief in U.S. history -- was too old to serve another term as president, and 49% said the same about Trump.

Archived at https://web.archive.org/web/20240214133801/https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/poll-americans-on-biden-age/story?id=107126589

Part that drew my eye,

The poll also comes days after the Senate failed to advance a bipartisan foreign aid bill with major new border provisions.

Americans find there is blame to go around on Congress' failure to pass legislation intended to decrease the number of illegal crossings at the U.S.-Mexico border -- with about the same number blaming the Republicans in Congress (53%), the Democrats (51%) and Biden (49%). Fewer, 39%, blame Trump.

More Americans trust that Trump would do a better job of handling immigration and the situation at the border than Biden -- 44%-26% -- according to the poll.

So that bipartisan border bill stunt was terrible policy, and it doesn't seem to have done anything for the Democratic party politically

Can we please stop trying to compromise with fascists now?

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 9 months ago (2 children)

The bothsiderist media is happy to let a fascist slide into office all while acting like they just have to harp on Biden's age.

Suppose Biden becomes unable to do the job. So what? There are plenty of capable people are him, and Harris will just assume the office. Big deal; not much changes.

But if tiny d gets into office...he's been promising to be the con movement's "vengeance" and promising to be a dictator (but only for a day, yeah right).

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

Depends on what you mean by the "media" because I'll agree there are a lot of shitheel columnists and hack journalists out there, but I think there are a lot of very good ones too who are trying hard to do a very difficult job in a difficult historical moment, and I think they wouldn't be doing their jobs properly if they didn't talk about Biden's age because it's an obvious potential issue.

That all said, I agree with your second paragraph and strongly agree with the third.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

But if tiny d gets into office…he’s been promising to be the con movement’s “vengeance” and promising to be a dictator (but only for a day, yeah right).

In that case the Democrats better put up somebody else besides Biden to vote for, so we don't go there.

https://lemmy.world/comment/7576723

[–] [email protected] 12 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (7 children)

Age is more than a number. Some people are very sharp at 80. Some are rapidly deteriorating at 60.

This is the point I wish everyone would remember when they're discussing this issue. It's not the age, but the 'wear and tear' that matters.

Some people age more gracefully than others, and we truly do want to have our elders wisdom, especially during trying times.

Having said all that, my personal opinion on all of this is that Biden seems to have cognitively/physically worn down past the level required for the decision-making/stresses of the office of the Presidency.

If he wants to have a third party doctor give him a cognizant test, and he passes it, and he publicly notifies all of us voters of that, then I would be up for voting for him again.

But judging based on the very little I'm allowed to see, as a voter, based on how few public news conferences that he does, and having seen him faltering in some of those, it truly does seem like it's time for him to move on.

Also IMO, Trump is a semen stain on the soul of America, and he quite literally is a test to see if America is America, or not. If we reaffirm our leader as someone who, as a 'wolf in sheeps clothing', is a very immoral and unethical grifter, then we are lost. All of us.

Not that it's going to happen, but both parties should be putting someone else up as their candidates for the presidency of the United States of America in 2024.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago (4 children)

It's a fact that the chance of an incumbent has a higher chance of winning a reelection. So, I understand why we are going with Biden. Even Biden said he was only going to run once. But this isn't just some random election. This will likely determine if America is going to exist past 2024

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[–] [email protected] -3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

A useless poll. Both are on their tickets and will stay that way. Hey, I'd like to have a pony too ..

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

There can be hope that they get the message for 2028 at least...

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

assuming an even split between republicans who think they're both too old and democrats who think they're both too old, roughly 30% of the population voting would be enough to sway either party's nomination process should these people decide to.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

If they all agreed on a single candidate, which is where it gets difficult

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