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Every now and then I'll get an email from someone higher up in Wikipedia asking for a donation. I don't really mind a tenner but I don't know if it pads the pockets of corporate management or actual contributors. Also, are they really short of money or is this tugging at emotional strings a play at something else? I wish Wikipedia survives but there's a lot of projects I need to donate to and I have a budget.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 months ago

No, it doesn't.

The Wikimedia projects are made by volunteers, almost none of the money goes to actually making the content. Some of it does go into keeping the servers running or into software development.

And some of it goes into expanding an ever-increasing bureaucracy, which is tasked among other things with enforcing intransparent "global bans" or lighter sanctions against contributors the WMF doesn't like (opinions of the editing community don't matter at all on these). If they had less money, perhaps they would lay off some of their trust and safety team and not catch some people who are making useful contributions by evading global bans.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Guy_Macon/Wikipedia_has_Cancer

There are so many more worthy free knowledge organizations to donate to: OpenStreetMap, FOSS projects (e.g. Software in the Public Interest), even Miraheze.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

Does anyone here have wage increase of all the "big responsability" jobs since wikipedia creation ? Jobs like ceo or technical directors, any types of directors

[–] [email protected] 68 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I've been a funding member of the Wikimedia Foundation for over a decade. I have looked at their finances several times before and during financing them.

As with a lot of similar non-profits, a considerable amount of donations does not go into "running the servers". You have to judge this by yourself, but they don't embezzle any money and there is a reasonable bottom line. Wikipedia continuously helps tons of people, and the people who run the operation enable that.

You can download a full dump of Wikipedia any day. Compared to other lying companies, they have been true on their promises for some time.

Of all the $1 I could spend in a year, the one I give to Wikipedia is probably the least wrong invested, and that $1 actually already makes a difference

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago (1 children)

How do you see the Wikimedia Foundation’s budget?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

https://wikimediafoundation.org/support/where-your-money-goes/ might be a good starting point.

https://www.wikimedia.de/2022/en/finances/ has some clear numbers up front, but I'm not sure if these only relate to Germany. I haven't been following the sources recently.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 months ago (3 children)

It definitely makes a difference, and putting money into Wikipedia is a great use of funds. The reason I asked the question is because I'm not well off, but I still like to donate to projects from time to time. This means I have a limited (and strict budget), and was wondering if they need my tenner badly enough to send marketing emails over it. Because I'd like to donate to people who actually really need the money, and Wikipedia will do just fine for some time without my money going to them.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 months ago

Never donate if you don't have the money. You can put a imaginary bill in an imaginary jar and turn those imaginary bills in real ones once you get better off.

Thanks for caring but care for yourself first.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 2 months ago

I’m not well off

Do NOT donate. Believe in yourself. Believe you will one day be well off. At that point in time feel free to pay your "backlog" of payments. Write down todays date somewhere and "start a tab".

Wikipedia will not help you when you need it most. Take care of yourself first... then donate.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

They set themselves up that way. They do so saying that if they were properly sponsored, the "sponsors" could influence their bias, as if they didn't succumb anyways.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago
[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I made an account and did a one time donation for $2.50. This removes the website donation banner. As long as I'm logged in, I do not see those messages. I get an email about donating once a year, possibly twice. Infrequently enough to be unsure of how often it has happened. If I ever see the donation banner on the website, I know I am logged out. So I can't answer your query about the corporate aspect but I can say that the heartstring tugging can easily be solved with a one time donation for a small amount. You can do a custom amount for a donation so theoretically it could be for $0.01 or your lowest fiat equivalent.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 months ago

They seem to give a lot of cash away to other organisations https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1579776106034757633.html (Their response is here for fairness.)

Whatever you think of the tertiary organisations, it seems like you're better off donating directly to a cause that needs it, rather than funding a bunch of middle managers to give it to someone else.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

Actually Not really but It will be good if you donate.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago (1 children)

They rely on donations, that part is correct. Are they in constant financial need so they are forced to ask users so often to donate? No, they are not.

Also keep in mind that while the server and developing costs of Wikipedia are one area of spending, Wikimedia spends money on a host of projects. Some of them you would probably consider more important than others.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

Yeah I need to look at the list and check if there's something important for me in there

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 months ago (2 children)

And how about archive.org ?

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 months ago

I think they need my help

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