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SUSE just open-sourced a typeface :)

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

It looks gorgeous. Can't wait to use it in my desktop.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

Been using it myself since it launched, been loving it so far! Got it active on everything except my terminal.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

But does it have unicode emojis?

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Hmm it specifically seems to be missing emojis

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

It's a latin font.

Designing all unicode characters would be madness.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Thanks. I imagine most unicode characters and emojis are just copied over from some default font?

Maybe they'll patch it into a https://www.nerdfonts.com

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago

It's a nice font. I just have a hard time with trusting SUSE after the SUSE vs OpenSUSE debacle.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)

That's awesome! Now how can I add it to Libreoffice?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Same as any other font. Add it to ~/.fonts or /usr/local/fonts. You might also have something like font browser already preinstalled, and usually there’s an Install button

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

Thank you! :D

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

I think it is a beautiful font, but I feel like I can not read it as well as others fonts in my high DPI small font (or basically anything small) setup.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago

This will be a nice addition to my collection of fonts :3

[–] [email protected] 17 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

I need more discussion on typefaces. Typography is one of my hyperfixations. :-)

P.S.: I meant "special interests", not hyperfixations.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 months ago (2 children)

hyperfixations

You probably mean "special interest". Simplifying, hyperfixation is such a strong fixation on something that you absolutely can't think about anything else.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

Yeah, this is the correct term, thank you!

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago

Based on what I've seen from this person, this is all I ever seen them talking about

[–] [email protected] 23 points 4 months ago

I like it. Not gonna nitpick. It's nicer than those microsoft fonts that came out recently

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

Looks nice, but I will keep IBM Plex Mono.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 months ago (1 children)

What is going on with that lowercase g?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 months ago (1 children)

That’s fairly standard for serif fonts like times new roman, baskerville, etc. Although it is uncommon in modern sans serif fonts and/or fonts designed to be viewed on a screen.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

The Fira family has a similar fancy g for some reason

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Here in Germany at least, if you read almost any printed novel, the type face will include this type of g. It’s so common, that I didn’t realise it’d be strange for some people.

(Although I do recall seeing a post about a kid that was confused by that weird letter, somewhere a while ago. Probably was still back on r*****)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Yeah it's common. I'm not confused by it, just like a normal g more.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

The commenter I responded to originally seemed confused/surprised by it, though.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago

Huh, just realized that the r-word and “Reddit” have the same number of characters.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

Tried it on Gnome, didn't look the greatest. The numbers in the time were really close to the colon in the top panel. Very well could just be a Gnome issue though, the way it handles fonts is weird.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

That’s a pretty good looking font. I think that lowercase g might be distracting but it’s workable.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

The correct term would be typeface ☝️🤓

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago (2 children)

I don't love it, but I also went in hoping for a possible new monospaced font to try out. It's nice to have options and maybe give Suse a slightly more distinct look I suppose.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

I've used it in the past, thanks for reminding me of it though.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Random recommendation, but I recently stumbled upon https://monaspace.githubnext.com, and it seems like a pretty cool approach to the whole "monospace font for dev work"

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I like that idea of using the different fonts for e.g. Copilot suggestions - reminds me of reading Asterix comics as a kid when they'd use gothic black for the Goth's speech, etc.

edit: e.g.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I remember these when they came out, and I liked Neon and Krypton the most. I'm glad you linked it so others might get to see it though, thanks!

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 months ago (2 children)

The idea of the github fonts is interesting, but I find it strange that the same letters next to each other can have different widths. I currently prefer the CommitMono approach.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

Looks great, thanks for sharing

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago

That's actually very much my kind of font, thanks a lot. At first glace I still prefer my current font (Liberation Mono), but I'll give it a test run and see how it feels after a couple of weeks. You can never tell right away if a font is a keeper.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I'm not a fan of the way the lowercase L's tail interacts with uppercase letters, but other than that it's not bad!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

The "fi" combination also seems problematic since they seem to intersect.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 4 months ago (1 children)

That's a ligature, it's deliberate.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago (3 children)

To me, that's even worse. Ligatures that have 0 separation where it's expected short circuit my reading comprehension.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago

That's what a ligature is. Combining two characters so they don't clash.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago (1 children)

You can turn them off with every font. But you'll be surprised by how much they can improve readability, because they remove optical irritation as shown here.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

So what I see there is that badly designed fonts require ligatures to correct interactions.

Like, I get that there are some neat ones, e.g. I have them turned on when writing code for symbols, but they seem wholly unnecessary and distracting in alphabetical characters.

But I'm also the kind of weirdo that thinks the world needs more monospace fonts.

/shrug

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

It is the exact opposite. Ligatures were created to help deal with the lack of clarity when symbols overlap. fi, ff, fl, ffi, have historically (like print press historical) been common ligatures where others are stylistic, where others are downright questionable & make things harder to read. The first category should almost always be supported, & the others can usually be disabled if not commonly off by default where you opt in for some design, not for general body copy.

What you are referring to about ‘programming ligatures’ is an outright abuse of open type features full of false positives, ambiguities, & lack of clarity for outsiders to understand what your code means. What you want is Unicode supported in your language so you can precisely what you mean than using ASCII abominations—like meaning but typing ->, dash + greater, than which isn’t at all what you mean which is a rightward arrow. (with a non-exhaustive languages with decent Unicode support: Raku, Julia, Agda, PureScript, Haskell with Unicode pragma, & all APL dialects).

[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

This looks wonderful. Ima dl this now.

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