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[–] [email protected] 26 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Well, not without also uninstalling Windows...

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I actually want this feature, but I want to own the data. There are some OSS projects writing basically identical things but they aren't too popular (https://github.com/jasonjmcghee/rem seems to be the most popular I could find, but I wasn't able to get the cross-platform version running on my machine).

I also wrote the dumbest possible clone of this feature in bash, the basic data gathering steps are actually pretty easy to do. I'd build this into a real program but I've just been too busy lately with other projects: https://jackson.dev/post/cloning-windows-recall-in-30-lines-of-bash/

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[–] [email protected] 41 points 2 months ago

Not use Windows 11 you say? Install Linux you say?!

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 months ago (1 children)

We can't uninstall our own keylogger, sorry!

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago

"...can't be uninstalled..."

Well sure it can, you just have to switch to Linux!

[–] [email protected] 32 points 2 months ago (4 children)

Hmm, I wonder if there could be an exploit where Recall is covertly turned on, so it can be used to exfiltrate data. Not a good idea to basically have a surveillance rootkit sitting passively on your system, with no ability to remove it, just waiting to get abused by attackers. But using this proprietary garbage OS nowadays isn't a good idea in general and there is a much better alternative.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Windows does have its own command-line package manager. I don't know if it can remove Recall, but last I checked it could remove Cortana. It would just get reinstalled soon after, but that could be prevented with some file-naming trickery. If you give a file the same name as the folder used to have and make it read-only, it couldn't remake the folder and wouldn't reinstall.

I wouldn't be surprised if you can still do that now.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Which one do you mean? Winget which is their newest attempt at creating a package manager that isn't an absolute piece of garbage, or their crappy CLI for managing MSIX/APPX modules? Because I remember using the latter to try and remove Cortana back when I first tried Windows 10. Fast forward, I removed all the garbage I didn't need, applied a Windows update, restarted my PC and it was all reinstalled. I wiped that SSD the same day and went back to Linux. This was the last time I used Windows on any of my personal devices.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago

I was talking about Appx. I haven't used Windows in a while, but that was how I got rid of Cortana. The key part was the read-only file named after the folder that couldn't be replaced.

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[–] [email protected] 67 points 2 months ago (14 children)

I did it! I did it over the long weekend. Been using Windows since 3.1 (albeit only switched fully from MSDOS when Windows 2000 came out).

I did a test run on my laptop during time away from home/desktop over the summer, using Linux Mint, to see if I can do work and school on an unfamiliar system exclusively. On Mint I never had to open the terminal and everything worked right out of the box. Cinnamon is very similar to Win10 too. Heck, I can't even remember the installation procedure, it was so hands off and easy.

After two failed attempts of Arch on the same laptop, I've managed to install it with help of archinstaller on my main desktop. No idea what I'm doing, but I got it up and running to a state where I can do both work and school.

FUCK Windows and the constant nag it does everywhere. Good riddance.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I applaud your bravery with Arch. Have some fun with it and don't worry if you break stuff. Keep your files backed up and you're golden! Even if you switch to a different distro later on, a lot of what you learn will translate 1:1.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Well done. Mint is the gateway drug, perfect for users like you. Progress and attempts with arch are noble though! Glad it didn't scare you off.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Good work getting through arch installer, it can be tricky too. I've been on arch for like 10 years and still don't think anything else is better.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Lol I misread this as you'd been relying on windows 3.1 and never upgraded but that 11 including recall made you switch to Linux. I need to be more thorough in my reading .

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 2 months ago (6 children)

I hope enough companies realize the inherent danger to their IP this feature brings. Or that the government realizes the inherent danger to CUI data and forces there to be an admin level lock of the feature so normal users can't just turn it on.

I and many others can't just switch to Linux because we are required to use company laptops/desktops that are admin locked.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

Specially since there's no Microsoft app that has ever securely functioned past a few days. This thing is gonna be hacked as soon as it comes out an we won't know until until there's an investigation into the accidental death of thirty innocent people as passengers in some vehicle somewhere controlled by windows 11 or something... Boeing re-entry vehicle maybe? Nah! You guys are good! Just jump in and come back home already!

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