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If your sneer seems higher quality than you thought, feel free to cut’n’paste it into its own post — there’s no quota for posting and the bar really isn’t that high.

The post Xitter web has spawned soo many “esoteric” right wing freaks, but there’s no appropriate sneer-space for them. I’m talking redscare-ish, reality challenged “culture critics” who write about everything but understand nothing. I’m talking about reply-guys who make the same 6 tweets about the same 3 subjects. They’re inescapable at this point, yet I don’t see them mocked (as much as they should be)

Like, there was one dude a while back who insisted that women couldn’t be surgeons because they didn’t believe in the moon or in stars? I think each and every one of these guys is uniquely fucked up and if I can’t escape them, I would love to sneer at them.

(Semi-obligatory thanks to @dgerard for starting this)

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (2 children)

so no surprise for this crowd, but remember all those reply guys who said Copilot+ would never be an issue cause it’d only work with the magical ARM chips with onboard AI accelerators in Copilot+ PCs? well the fucking obvious has happened

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

this shit's starting to make me feel claustrophobic

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

come to Linux! we’ve got:

  • pain
  • the ability to create a fully custom working environment designed to your own specifications, which then gets pulled out from under you when the open source projects that you built your environment on get taken over by fucking fascists
  • about 3 and a half months til Red Hat and IBM decide they’re safe to use their position to insinuate an uwu smol bean homegrown open source LLM model into your distro’s userland. it’s just openwashed Copilot+ and no you can’t disable it
  • maybe AmigaOS on 68k was enough, what have we gained since then?
[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I'm actually still working on a project kinda related to this, but am currently in a serious "is this embarrassingly stupid?" stage because I'm designing something without enough technical knowledge to know what is possible but trying to keep focused on the purpose and desired outcome.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (3 children)

I can lend some systems expertise from my own tinkering if you need it! a lot of my designs never got out of the embarrassingly stupid stage (what if my init system was a Prolog runtime? what if it too was emacs?) but it’s all worth exploring

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I ask you this hoping it isn't insulting, but how are you with os kernel level stuff?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

it’s not insulting at all! I’m not a Linux kernel dev by any means, but I have what I consider a fair amount of knowledge in the general area — OS design and a selection of algorithm implementations from the Linux kernel were part of what I studied for my degree, and I’ve previously written assembly boot and both C and Rust OS kernel code for x86, ARM, and MIPS. most of my real expertise is in the deeper parts of userland, but I might be able to give you a push in the right direction for anything internal to the kernel.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

great! I'll show you something soon hopefully and see what you think

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

"we couldn't excite enough people to buy yet another windows arm machine that near-certainly won't be market-ready for 3 years after its launch, so now we're going to force this shit on everyone"

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (6 children)

NASB is there an xcancel but for medium dot com?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago

archive.today usually works

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I'm sure every poster who's ever popped in to tell us about how extremely useful and good LLMs are for this are gonna pop in realsoonnow

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago

If those kids could read they'd be very upset

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (3 children)

This is a little too low hanging for its own post, spotted this from reddit:

https://xcancel.com/elonmusk/status/1830390502836854925#m

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago

There is an übermensch and there is an untermensch.

The übermensch are masculine males, the bodybuilders I follow that are only active in the gym and on the feed; the untermensh are women and low-T men, like my bluepilled Eastern European coworker whose perfectly fine with non-white immigration into my country.

The übermensch also includes anybody whose made a multi-paragraph post on 4chan with no more than one line break between each paragraph. It also includes people at least and at most as autistic as I am.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (4 children)

Wow the first reply is quite unhinged.

More on topic, that isn't low hanging fruit, that is Exhibit C in the discrimination lawsuit.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I'm not sure if this is esoteric or just clasically insane

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (4 children)

discrimination lawsuit

Or a custody battle!

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

This is barely on topic, but I've found a spambot in the wild. I know they're a dime a dozen, but I wanted to take a deep dive.

https://www.reddit.com/user/ChiaPlotting/

It blew its load advertising a resume generator or something bullshit across hundreds of subs. Here's an example post. The account had a decent amount of karma, that stood out to me. I'm pretty old school, so I thought someone just sold their account. Right? Wrong. All the posts are ChatGPT generated! Read in sequence, all the karma farm posts are very clearly AI generated, but individually they're enticing enough that they get a decent amount of engagement: "How I eliminated my dent with the snowball method", "What do you guys think of recent Canadian immigration 🤨" both paraphrased.

This guy isn't anonymous, and he seemingly isn't profiting off the script that he's hawking. His reddit account leads to his github leads to his LinkedIn which mentions his recent graduation and his status as the co-founder of some blockchain bullshit. I have no interest in canceling or doxxing him, I just wanted to know what type of person would create this kind of junk.

The generator in question, that this man may have unknowingly destroyed his reddit account to advertise, is under the MIT license. It makes you wonder WHY he went to all this trouble.

I want to clone his repo and sniff around for data theft; the repo is 100% percent python, so unless he owns any of the modules being imported the chance of code obfuscation is low. But after seeing his LinkedIn I don't think this guy's trying to spread malware; I think he took a big, low fiber shit aaaaalll over reddit as an earnest attempt at a resume builder.

Personally, I find that so much stranger than malice. 🤷‍♂️

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Maybe hot take, but when I see young people (recent graduation) doing questionable things in pursuit of attention and a career, I cut them some slack.

Like it's hard for me to be critical for someone starting off making it in, um, gestures about this, world today. Besides, they'll get the sense knocked into them through pain and tears soon enough.

I don't find it strange or malice, I find it as symptom of why it was easier for us to find honest work then, and harder for them now.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago

the username makes me think the account started its life shilling for the chia cryptocurrency (the one that spiked storage prices for a while cause it relied on wearing out massive numbers of SSDs, before its own price fell so low people gave up on it), but I don’t know how to see an account’s oldest posts without going in through the defunct API

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago

heartwarming

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Interview with the president of the signal foundation: https://www.wired.com/story/meredith-whittaker-signal/

There’s a bunch of interesting stuff in there, the observation that LLMs and the broader “ai” “industry” wee made possible thanks to surveillance capitalism, but also the link between advertising and algorithmic determination of human targets for military action which seems obvious in retrospect but I hadn’t spotted before.

But in 2017, I found out about the DOD contract to build AI-based drone targeting and surveillance for the US military, in the context of a war that had pioneered the signature strike.

What’s a signature strike?

A signature strike is effectively ad targeting but for death. So I don’t actually know who you are as a human being. All I know is that there’s a data profile that has been identified by my system that matches whatever the example data profile we could sort and compile, that we assume to be Taliban related or it’s terrorist related.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago

this mostly uses metadata as inputs iirc. basically somedude can be flagged as "frequent contact of known bad guy" and if he can be targeted he will be. this is only one of many options. this is also basically useless in full scale war, but it's custom made high tech glitter on normal traffic analysis for COIN

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago

Thanks for sharing this. <3

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago

#notawfulstub

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (4 children)

Yud today:

Read the original Yudkowsky. Please. FOR THE LOVE OF GOD.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

This holiday season, treat your loved ones to the complete printed set* of the original Yudkowsky for the low introductory price of $1,299.99. And if you act now, you'll also get 50% off your subscription to the exciting new upcoming Yudkowsky, only $149 per quarter!

*This fantastic deal made possible by our friends at Amazon Print-on-Demand. Don't worry, they're completely separate from the thoughtless civilization-killers in the AWS and AI departments whom we have taught you to fear and loathe

(how far are we from this actually happening?)

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (2 children)

This reminded me, tangentially, of how there used to be two bookstores in Cambridge, MA that both offered in-house print-on-demand. But apparently the machines were hard to maintain, and when the manufacturer went out of business, there was no way to keep them going. I'd used them for some projects, like making my own copies of my PhD thesis. For my most recent effort, a lightly revised edition of Calculus Made Easy, I just went with Lulu.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

yuh it's basically the stuff Kindle Print or Lulu or Ingram use. (Dunno if they still do, but in the UK Amazon just used Ingram.)

Cheap hack: put your book on Amazon at a swingeing price, order one (1) author copy at cost

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago

I remember those machines (in general)!

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Even he thinks you shouldn't read HPMOR.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (4 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago

I think HPMOR also still needs a content warning for talking about sexual assault. Weird how that is a pattern.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Dunno what’s worse, that he’s thirstily comparing his shitty writing to someone famous, or that that someone is fucking Hayek.

Knowing who he follows the unclear point of Hayek was probably “is slavery ok actually”

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago

I suspect that for every subject that Yud has bloviated about, one is better served by reading the original author that Yud is either paraphrasing badly (e.g., Jaynes) or lazily dismissing with third-hand hearsay (e.g., Bohr).

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago

goddammit you got to it eight seconds before me

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