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Hopefully the mods are okay with a little journalism about journalism so that people know where Politico stands in terms of being a trustworthy source.

The headline in question:

‘Next question’: Harris evades questions about her identity

The background to the headline is from Harris' recent CNN interview:

“I want to ask you about your opponent, Donald Trump,” Bash said to Harris. “I was a little bit surprised. People might be surprised to hear that you have never interacted with him, met him face-to-face. That’s gonna change soon. But what I wanna ask you about is what he said last month. He suggested that you ‘happened’ to turn Black recently for political purposes, questioning a core part of your identity.”

“Same old, tired playbook,” Harris replied. “Next question, please.”

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[–] [email protected] 249 points 2 months ago (17 children)

HOLY SHIT. This is a much bigger deal than people realize. Politico is suggesting that her identity is in question to begin with. It's not.

She didn't evade a question about her identity because there is no question about her identity. She passed an opportunity to get upset over Trump's comments.

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[–] [email protected] 118 points 2 months ago (6 children)

Multi race people are use to this shit. We are denied one race or another. If you don't look how people expect you will receive racist shit about both races, really fun.

I have many issues with Harris, but I'm glad she is exposing this shit. I'm tired of closet and undercover racists.

[–] [email protected] 54 points 2 months ago (5 children)

It's amazing how many of them feel emboldened to come out of the woodwork now. It's because they're a bunch of 30- and 40-somethings who grew up and/or spent their on 4Chan and never left that mindset.

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[–] [email protected] 65 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Bash said: "But what I wanna ask you about is what he said last month. He suggested that you ‘happened’ to turn Black recently for political purposes, questioning a core part of your identity.”

Where was the question? That's simply a statement about what Trump said.

Politico's headline is outrageous, but what was Bash even trying to do here? Because it reads like she was trying to ask (without asking) if Harris is black, which is just as weird and absurd as Trump's original comment.

Harris's reply is great because it applies both to Trump's racism and the problem with journalists giving these comments anything more than ridicule.

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[–] [email protected] 165 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (21 children)

Honest question from a European: Do you guys still have journalism somewhere? It all seems to be political propaganda or outrage clickbait with you guys.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago

We have it less and less too here in the EU.

IMO.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 2 months ago

John Oliver

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 months ago (1 children)

There are a lot of 'content creators' that pose as journalists.

There are journalists that do great work but since their stories can run counter to a narrative, it can be more difficult to find those articles.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 months ago

Specifically, "Good Work" and "Some More News" spring to mind as producing well researched pieces - they're both highly specialized and only deliver occasional focused news rather than a continuous spread of general goings-on... but given how many outlets are happy to spam low quality continuous bullshit I consider that a good thing.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

We have capitalism that is regulated less and less with every Repub admin, so no, unfortunately.

[–] [email protected] 147 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Point of order from an American: Politico is a wholly owned subsidiary of German multinational Axel Springer.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 months ago

Touché (I'm German, btw)

[–] [email protected] 75 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Didn't know that (i'm German), but Springer ist known in Germany to outright lie to push rightwing agenda

[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Better regulation in EU and Germany. And better freedom of speech too.
Many Americans confuse the right to lie with freedom of speech.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Local affiliates and independent papers tend to be much better.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Until they get bought up by Sinclair or Gannett.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

Was gonna say, "they still exist?" Lol

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 months ago

"This is dangerous to our democracy."

[–] [email protected] 38 points 2 months ago

This is extremely dangerous to our democracy

[–] [email protected] 96 points 2 months ago (4 children)

Very little, but there is NPR, which generally attempts to do real journalism.

https://www.npr.org/

[–] [email protected] 49 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 35 points 2 months ago (2 children)

ProPublica, PBS, and don't forget the Daily Show

[–] [email protected] 30 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (5 children)

I wouldn't say the Daily Show does real journalism. They do make important stories public, but they have a clear slant both in terms of politics and in terms of making it funny.

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 2 months ago

She should have asked Bash when he happened to turn orange. He used to be white.

[–] [email protected] 65 points 2 months ago (1 children)

How is plainly calling it out as the bullshit that it is "evasion?" That headline isn't just misleading; it's a straight-up lie.

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[–] [email protected] 42 points 2 months ago (1 children)

That seemed like the entirely right answer. It was a bullshit question that didn’t need dignified with a response.

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[–] [email protected] 203 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (3 children)

The hypocrisy. Trump evades questions about EVERYTHING, yet gets called almost never. Her answer isn't even an evasion. It was a whole dismissive argument on the absurdity of both the claim and question summarized in a terse “Same old, tired playbook. Next question, please.”

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[–] [email protected] 46 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Headline is still up on their front page even:

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/08/30/harris-cnn-interview-race-gender-00176929

"Harris sidesteps the spotlight when it comes to her identity

The vice president makes her case on identity implicit. Black women are OK with that."

[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 months ago (1 children)

If I ever see a question like that posed to a white politician I will accept it as valid. Otherwise it's just more dumb racist shit.

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