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[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago

No surprise at the top 10 states.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (5 children)

What about the counties where you end up dead well before you can be put behind bars.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

It is always depressing to read people all of a sudden worried about other countries like China or Russia, don't even giving a minuscule fuck about what is happening in their own country.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

If that really 1% of the population incarcerated? Wow

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

In Louisiana, it seems so.. that’s insane!!!!

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (2 children)
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[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (2 children)

The Gulag at the peak housed about 7,500 per 100k of the Soviet population.

(And yes, the US's 531 is still also an atrocity.)

Where did you get 329? I actually couldn't find any post-Kruschev numbers, but I know after privatization, Russia was pretty competitive with the US's dystopian nightmare.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Ah, got it. I was talking about USSR, not modern Russia. Modern Russia is its own thing and its own brand of horror but not the same as OG Communist USSR which was more what I was trying to highlight.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

No where did you get 7500??? Holy shit, that would be nearly 10 million people. (assuming somewhere around 160 million total pop)

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Yeah. I'm taking the high side of the widely varying estimates of the Gulag population, which in the period of the 1940s range from 3.5 million to 17.6 million depending on who's doing the estimating.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Bringing out the whataboutism for a country that doesn't even exist anymore?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Ha, that is fair. I was just poking fun at dessalines's habit of giving a free pass to any country that is openly mauling and torturing its citizens as long as they wear the right color hat. But yes, it is fully accurate that the US's prison system is an authoritarian nightmare that preys on its minority population without rest or mercy. And, comparing the US against countries which don't even make the claim of being "democratic" and finding it competitive with the worst of the open tyrannies is maybe fair.

Also, I just looked, and I don't think these numbers are accurate. I think they're straight-up ignoring some countries with millions of people, and I think its numbers are about 8 years out of date. The US incarceration rate has been falling back down to merely horrifying levels after the Stalinist peak it rose to after Reagan+Clinton teamed up to ruin the world.

US Incarceration Rate

List of Countries by Incarceration Rate

The majority of states in our land of wonderful freedoms are newly competitive with such beacons of freedom as El Salvador, Rwanda, and Turkmenistan. The march of progress!

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago

Yeah I also looked on Wikipedia, which uses World Prison Brief data. The WPB is from 2023 and the Prison Policy data is from 2021, so maybe things changed, but I can't find the WPB data for 2021 and nor do I want to spend anymore time looking :D

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago

121 per 100k

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

China is included in this.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Do we have a dataishorrible community?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago

Haha we need one.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago

The thumbnail screenshot doesn’t do it justice. Or maybe you meant USisHorrible.

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