Seems very different from when he immediately capitulated to requests from Turkey. Makes you wonder.
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Doesn't make me wonder anything. I think most people paying attention know he is happy to comply with dictators.
I'm not sure musk is in the wrong here.. And I do hate saying that.
Do you have any link to a credible contrary discussion on this? Because all I see is bolsominions screeching, it is hard to find an unbiased source.
PS: globo, uol and record report no wrongdoing against elon, bandeirantes is waiting to see the documents the court sent elon to make him call the judge a dictator.
I don't see any reasonable people siding with elon against the government (safe for the detail of throwing starlink and X together, that is being debated, but someone has to pay the fines).
Elon sucks but the Brazilian government isn't exactly the nicest one in the world either. I'm not sure which side of this issue I support. I want them to both lose somehow.
e.g.? you can say that about any government.
I just want elon to deal with the consequences of acting like "we'll coup whoever we want" as he posted before.
I don’t see any reasonable people siding with elon
Many many people now decide whether a story is true or not based on how they feel about Elon rather than the story itself. So yeah - I bet you don't.
Near as I can tell Musk is being ordered to shut down some accounts based on them spreading misinformation. That's a dangerous game for any government to get into. That's why I'm withholding judgement here. Sure - they may be accounts I disagree with - but government censorship should be questioned.
It's not just misinformation, it's also the ban in profiles that spread/contribute with the coup attempt.
And the censorship argument used by some people is dumb, we Brazilians have a law about lying and defamation, is just that applied for the internet.
I'm sure you do have a law about it - I'm questioning whether such laws are good.
We'll see how it goes in the EU and the UK (and the US). If twitter keeps promoting openly unambiguously nazi content, there are laws to deal with that. Brazil just did it sooner because elon boosted the guys questioning electoral results of a very contested election without any evidence.
If twitter keeps promoting openly unambiguously nazi content, there are laws to deal with that.
Not in the US there aren't. And that's my bias - that sometimes you need to allow shitty people to say shitty things because the alternative can be worse.
this is not about the US, but it may become in November.
Even better tidbit: https://old.reddit.com/r/EnoughMuskSpam/comments/1f4b4m3/how_the_brazilian_judge_outsmarted_melon/
Since Judge Moraes had imposed fines and injunctions on Xitter, Melon thought it would be smart to close the X office in Brazil so that he would not have any representatives to be subpoenaed for the decisions. If the judicial system cannot find anyone to subpoena, Melon may have thought, that this would avoid any consequences.
And, in fact, for 10 days the judge tried to subpoena the Ketamine-head without success. But Brazilian law provides that if it is proven in any way that the defendant had knowledge of the subpoena, he will be considered subpoenaed for all intents and purposes.
What did Judge Moraes do? He simply ordered the subpoena to be published on Xitter and waited for K-head to fall into the trap of reacting, which would prove that he was aware of the subpoena. And Musk, probably without thinking for a second when he heard about the post, reacted posting an AI generated image showing Moraes in jail.
It was a masterstroke because everyone in the world knows that Melon is an irrational crybaby who reacts to everything without any self-control. If he wasn't as addicted to posting on Xitter as he is to ketamine, the trap wouldn't have worked. Checkmate.
TL;DR
Supreme Court: A federal investigation showed these accounts are infringing the law, block them or pay a fine for each day they continue to stay up.
Elon: Pissing, shitting and screaming
SC: Pay your fines and follow the law or you won't be able to operate in the country
Elon: I'm closing down our offices in Brazil so now I don't need to follow the law
SC: You have 24 hours to name X's legal representative in Brazil or we're shutting down the service. To ensure you pay your assets are frozen