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I used sink plungers in toilets pretty much my whole life until i scrolled across a similar diagram one day and discovered the truth.
Sink plungers without the flange work better on sinks, in my experience. So it's nice to have one of each.
There are different builds for drainage snakes for sinks and toilets as well.
One way to be a better neighbor is to get a good drain snake and lend it out as needed.
Until they start stiffening with age.
Usually age has the opposite effect, but I hear they make pills for that.
/Arteries have entered the chat
The epdm mine is made of is quite stiff after about 10 years of use
They're talking more like 40 or 50 years. You've got plenty of time
Lkke i said mine is already stiffening after 10 years. Its almost like hard plastic now
often, the toilet plunger will look like a sink one on the shelf because they pushed the flange up inside
Most plungers are both. Pull down the cone for the commode or push it up inside for the sink.
What kind of maniac uses it in a sink after using it in a toilet?
Clean it first. Then clean the sink after using soiled plumbing tools.
Who uses the same plunger for the toilet and kitchen sink?
I guess the kind that actually cleans the plunger after use. When I have to use one, after use, I take it outside and hose it off with the hose pipe then soak it in a bucket of bleach water.
I wonder what the history of this was, and why I never knew about this.
Was there always such a distinction? Did it apply to older toilets as well? Were all my parents, relatives, friends parents just cheap and got the wrong one?
"Was there always such a distinction?"
No, The first cup plunger was invented as the flushing mechanism in 1777, since the flushing toilet wasn't invented until almost 1800.
that one looked pretty similar to cup plungers of today.
As far as I can find, accordion and flange plungers were developed later to accommodate the standardized outtake valves of modern toilets.
"Did it apply to older toilets as well?"
Yup, except the first cup plunger was held like a hammer rather than a plunger is held today.
"Were all my parents, relatives, friends parents just cheap and got the wrong one?"
Mine certainly were, and again, this design difference is for some reason not common knowledge, so it's more likely they just didn't know that the flanged plunger is specifically made for toilet drains.
I have only seen one in a commercial bathroom and I just assumed it had to do with those industrial shaped toilets they use.
I have IBS so that's saying a lot.
This is wrong. Some toilets use the normal “sink” plunger because the exit opening is too large for the “toilet” marked style. You get either or whatever fits your toilet. It’s not specifically for sink only.
Not at all.
"You get either or whatever fits your toilet. It’s not specifically for sink only."
Incorrect.
The cup plunger is designed to fit over drains on flat surfaces, while flanged plungers are designed to fit inside the outtake valves of toilets.
"Some toilets use the normal “sink” plunger because the exit opening is too large for the “toilet” marked style".
This is also wrong because:
they are completely different designs and have different use-cases that you will only give you and others more trouble and mess for by not knowing and spreading misinformation.
I am not wrong. There are toilet designs where the flange style literally doesn’t cover the exit chute. I have one. I have to use a “sink” style type. The flange style is small and does not form any type of seal due to the shape and size. It’s literally impossible that it is the correct solution. Everything I said is 100% correct.
you are wrong.
"There are toilet designs where the flange style literally doesn’t cover the exit chute."
The flange is not designed to cover the exit chute, but rather to fit inside the outtake.
This is also apparently due to your specifically atypical plunger.
"The flange style is small and does not form any type of seal due to the shape and size"
since flange and cup plungers are the same diameter, you are clearly having an anomalous problem that you should not be drawing broad conclusions from.
cup plungers and flange plungers are specifically designed to address different problems, to be used in different manners(the cup covers a uniform drain on a flat surface while the flange creates a seal within the sloped and curved toilet outtake by fitting inside the outtake) and are not interchangeable.
Your premises are flawed and your conclusions are incorrect.
Babe quick, new toilet lore just dropped!
Wait....that's a flange? I always thought those were just pulled out by accident, like turned inside out. I also always just ignored it because it never hinders anything.
Yup, that's a flange, designed for toilet drains
Think about where the splashy toilet water goes when they're flipped up inside the plunger. They're shipped that way to cut down on carton space though.
Yes, that makes sense. TIL.
The toilets at my moms house are teeny tiny so this doesn't matter on them
But yes... without the toilet plunger on the right: Do not even try the left one with a modern day toilet, it's sooooo messy
My favorite with the flanged is all the shit that gets caught inside and splashes when you lift it out the water.