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[–] [email protected] 29 points 2 months ago (7 children)

I have an idea that might work for solving climate change. It has no scientific basis but hear me out, I think it's worth at least trying. We should try sacrificing some oil execs in a volcano. Maybe tie them to a barrel of oil so that the earth understands we are trying to return what we took and make up for it a bit, so please chill out. Probably won't actually do anything but it wouldn't hurt to at least try it for a few decades, right?

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 months ago

You forgot the "yes it is real and it's the consumers fault" phase

[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 months ago (2 children)
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[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I'd add an overlapping step sponsored by BP in 2004: "Climate Change is real, and here's a calculator to show you, that we have nothing to do with it."

For the uninitiated: The Carbon Footprint Calculator was introduced by BP in 2004 as what can only be described as a successful attempt to shift attention and blame to the general public.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Like...why would anyone believe a company whose interest is enmeshed with their claims?? A company isn't a person with morals. It's a Machiavellian machine with the sole purpose of maximizing profits. They will never ever intentionally make a claim that hurts their profits. It would make absolutely no sense for a company to reduce demand of its product. That would be soooooo counterintuitive. If you sold lemonade, would you publish a study that showed that lemonade harms people? If yes, then your company would stop selling lemonade and disband while every other lemonade seller would flood the market with the benefits of consuming lemonade.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago

no dispute there. The thing is, it wasn't advertised like that. It was advertised as: Here's this scientifically sound tool to measure your impact and judge what you can do. Which in and of itself wouldn't be a bad thing if it wasn't burying the lead.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 months ago (1 children)

There is one step in between. "Climate change is real and caused by humans, but it's already too late, might as well keep drilling"

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

That's the oops section, and we got one foot in the door on that already.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Executives for these companies should publicly hang for this

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

As should their supporters. This was all made possible by conservatives who delight in polluting the planet.

Conservatives gleefully defend the most pollutive corporations. They choose the most pollutive vehicles, roll coal, litter at will, dump used oil and chemicals into sewers and rivers and berate anyone who expresses support for a clean planet. Conservatism is a disease that is killing us all. It is time for a cure.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago

Abolish the corporate veil! Their children and children's children deserve to go to public school.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago

Even if someone isn't convinced climate change is caused by humans, pretty much all of the shit that causes climate change is some form of pollution.

Can we make an effort to pollute our environment a little less, at least?

Stop burning finite resources like coal and oil, just because?

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Climate change deniers changed their tune. They re-branded themselves as "climate skeptic", and from outright denialism they shifted to "climate change is happening, but it happened before and this one will not be as bad."

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago

A lot of O&G industry has pivoted to "Only we can fix climate change!" then started mopping up federal grants and subsidies to build quixotic hydrogen fuel cell, carbon capture, and "clean" carbon projects that consistently fail to pay dividends.

Their Republican enablers then point to these failures and announce "climate change is a hoax! We should go back to Drill Here, Drill Now!"

We go back into a debate, while O&G profits surge and temperatures continue to rise. Then everyone in the economy panics when a foreign power takes the lead on battery and nuclear technology.

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