I do not have and addiction problem, you have a problem with my addiction.
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My first tiling window manager was Xmonad. There is simply no such thing as going back to a full desktop environment when your first tiling window manager was Xmonad. I haven't even considered using a full desktop environment in years, and I never will.
I just use whatever's in the box.
customizing dwm to the fullest extent is absolutely addicting!
I started using WindowMaker to n an old laptop that was mainly for playing music and I ended up loving it. It kinda reminds me of using an Amiga. Super fast to start, lightweight in terms of ram, and does everything I need. I like the squishy luxuries of KDE sometimes but it’s been a little over complicated since KDE 4.
Just so you know I have tried Plasma 6 and know it feels more simple, intuitive and consistent than 5. KDE has done a nice job of making it friendlier.
Hey, KDE's been keeping things more lightweight since version 5!
Have you tried niri yet? What about river?
I have tried both of them. They are both powerful on their own respect. Niri is still on its early days so things like floating window are a work in progress (last time I checked), but things like its window management is great if you can set up nice keybinds for the multitude of actions available and its scrolling behaviour works like a charm on laptops. Niri also has a configuration file validator that you can use before restarting Niri which is genius! One thing you might hate or love is the dynamic workspaces, workspaces are moved/renamed so that they are consecutive. So if you had four occupied workspaces ( 1 through 4) and clear workspace 3 now you would have three consecutive workspaces (1 through 3) effectively making workspace 4 now be workspace 3.
River is super fast because of how minimal it is plus it has some nice community layouts available to suit your taste better. Also the tag window management can be the fastest out there but can become hard if not set up properly. It was to cool and all but I feel it is more for power users and it totally overwhelmed me when I tried to set up stuff to set tags for windows and move them around monitors (and that when you move a window to a monitor it does not keep focus on it). The way I use Sway and Hyprland is to set workspaces for different monitors and it just feels easy for me to move windows around focusing(or not) the destined workspace. I think the best feature of River is to toggle any window on your focused tag, it really feels like magic.
Hope that helps.
Niri has a way to have named workspaces now which basically act like persistent workspaces, so you don't have to use dynamic workspaces system. I really like niri and have it as my daily driver
Yeah, my problem with it is that I have to be conscious of what named workspaces are created to know what keybind to hit to switch to them and that they occupy regular workspaces place. I guess one is meant to scroll through them with your touchpad or keybinds, but when you have 5 + workspaces it become inefficient. I think Niri would be better suited for ultra-wide monitor but then one would not have a touchpad... Most importantly when you want to send windows to a particular workspace (other than neighbor workspaces) it can be a nighmare. Probably its just me no being able to figure it out and/or became to accustomed to a particular workflow, #skill_issue.
I feel like you are missing something because I can directly hop around one of my ten workspaces with a single click, without a need of scrolling through the workspaces between. What I do is to create ten named workspaces in startup (I actually only use like five of them but let's ignore that). Then I can still navigate them by the index number. I don't use regular workspaces enitrely in my setup.
Note: I only use a single monitor and never move workspaces up or down so I don't know the experience there.
Oh, I can't remeber well but here is my question: when you have set 10 named workspaces and only have active #1, #2 and #4... Does not #4 become #3 even if its named? Meaning you can focus the originally #4 workspace? Anyway when I used it(for 3-4days consecutive) I did not think of naming workspaces just 1 to 10 to fix in them in place lmao.
Sorry I saw it earlier but I forgot to respond. Named workspaces are always active, and they stay in place regardless if there is a window there or not.
Oh, thanks!
I can't go back from a tiling WM but I would actually prefer to use a DE nowadays. I seriously hope that COSMIC will be able to fill that gap between the two.
I haven't tried it, but I've heard you can use a third party wm inside plasma.
Also, the fact that you can edit COSMIC through config files is a game changer. Although I don't really like the tiling layout style, sometimes I want something easy to setup like GNOME but with good autotiling
You could use your twm within kde or xfce. I've never done it, but people who have seem to be happy with it.
Thanks for the suggestion but I'm not going back from Wayland either.
I know there are ways to tile in both Gnome and KDE, I tried some of them. Unfortunately, none of them allow for workspace management type I'm used to.
What I need is to have workspaces 1-5 on the first monitor, 6-8 on the second, and 9-11 on the third. I need those to be bound to the monitors so I don't have to manually move them around. And I need to switch between them independently of course. It's interesting that no DE seems to be able to do that but it's a standard way to set up Hyprland or Sway.
Jokes aside what is KDE better than Gnome or cinnamon?
Whatever works for you, I prefer the looks and intuitiveness of Gnome but prefer Plasma's functionality, reason why I'm using a wm. I get my personal functionality and my personal looks for the most part. If a had to choose form those Desktop Environments I would probably choose Plasma because after their 6.0 release it is more cohesive, consistent and intuitive than before.
I'll just stick with mostly stock gnome
My mostly stock Gnome was Caffeine, Vertical Workspaces, Sane Airplane Mode, No Startup Overview... can't remember what else and the exact names of the extensions.
I've been kind of interested in a tiling wm for a while now, but I want to see a demo of someone who has really spent the time of fully utilising its true power. Does anyone have a recommended video for something like that?
Unfortunately I do not have one of those videos, my experience with youtubers is that usually they do not go in depth.
The most powerful wm's can be the ones based in tags(instead of workspaces) like dwm and riverwm, but they are conceptually harder to wrap your head around them and can be of higher cognitive effort than regular workspace wms.
Window managers potential varies and even more so with your personal workflow. I would suggest checking the window manager for:
- tag/workspace based
- window tags(for workspace based)
- window/workspace/tag movement
- layouts
- window tab/group
- input support
- output support
- decorations
The most important ones are workflow related because you cam always have a hotkey daemon running if the wm's input support isn't as good.
Here are my dotfiles, none of those wm configs use all features but you get the idea.
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