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Russian leader says Ukraine’s gains sound like a you problem.

President Vladimir Putin has a message for the Russian region where Ukraine has seized more than 1,000 square kilometers of territory: Don’t blame me.

Speaking via videoconference to a meeting of Russian politicians, including the governors of Kursk, Belgorod and Bryansk regions, Putin said the “security issues” that had arisen in Kursk were “problems that are the responsibility of the security forces.”

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago
[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

Only, if he hadn't started a special military operation none of this would be happening.

[–] [email protected] 47 points 2 months ago (2 children)

The fact that he feels the need to say this is a sign of his vulnerability, of the pressure he feels. The chorus of voices is only going to grow louder as Ukraine kills and captures more and more soldiers, more conscripts.

Putin blaming the security forces is the beginning of the end for him. The domestic security apparatus is the only thing keeping him in power.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Eeeeeehh, this is how the czarist system (and really monarchies in general) always worked. The king is the Good Father; fuckups or moral failings are because of the Bad Councilors.

People know the deal going in.

He may be weak, probably is, but I don't think this specifically is necessarily the sign to look for.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

But the czarist system has the feature that given enough fuckups, the czar is removed in a palace coup. And given that the oligarchs have been hit quite hard by sanctions and that the "Special" military operation hasn't exactly gone to plan. It seems only a matter of time before it happens.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

Fingers crossed!

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 months ago (1 children)

None of us know this, everytime we see something not go their way we talk like this hut truth is we have no clue. Putin has kept people in check for a long time, he is good at it. 2 years ago it was cancer, and everytime there is anstrategic win we talk about cracks and thw beginning of the end.

The russian people enjoy living in shit to spite all the westerners.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

"Maybe our leaders abuse us, but have you seen how good we are at taking it?"

[–] [email protected] 27 points 2 months ago

That's quality leadership for you.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago

I wish him many 'not his faults' for the future!

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago

That’s real leadership right there.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

The relevant piece is the conclusion at the end of the transcript linked in the OP.

I feel like Politico misinterpretated this. He didn't say it's on them (not him), and didn't blame anyone explicitly, he meant this topic is not a part of this public conversation, and it'd be dealt by them. This, as a piece of the whole picture, does mean something tho.

The issue is exhaustingly downplayed. Most of the conversation is held about evacuation, monetary help (now it's $150!), the start of the school year, and not much is even said about security. One of the topics, the armament of civilian forces of territorial defence, and later these 'problems ... of security forces', sounds not unlike what could've been told before the attack, or before the 2k22 invasion itself. No reassuring speeches, not even an aknowledgement that a part of the region is under foreign AF.

He still evades that, distances himself. He traditionally disappeared when shit hit the fan, even went to other country for a meeting (a political suicide in places where politics are practiced) and did not comment anything at all. And after two weeks the response is not unlike those he could say about a natural disaster that 'just happened'. Hurr-durr, let your people cooperate with emergency services and cops, and let's play it cool. BTW, let's make schools open on a schedule, okay?

I'm not from Kursk, but I think it's not in any sense encouraging for locals. Moreso, these terr-defence forces inspire more fear than security: how'd they recruit people and how disciplined are they if given weapons? And with such priorities, it doesn't sound they want to sacrifice their onslaught elsewhere to take these territories back. Times and times again russian citizens are told to just deal with it. And, depressingly yet unsurprisingly, they would.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 months ago (4 children)
[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 months ago

OP works for EA.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago

Why not 2.022k?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I'm vibing with the youngsters. That's been said, I've forgotten to update my Twitter bio in a while.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

One less number, duh

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Putin should stick to what he does best, poisoning panties

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Dude, I know Russia has poisoned people... But panties? That's a new one for me.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

Dirty undies . . . the whites!

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago

Navalny pants, dude.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Wow, he's sounding a lot like Felon Drink Bleach.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

The last resort of defense-obsessed dictator is the Shaggy air defense^TM^ when losing actual "historic russian lands". 😆

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 months ago

Yeah. it has nothing to do with invading ukraine. nothing at all. /s

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

Who else could it be then ?

[–] [email protected] 27 points 2 months ago

Gotta socialize the failures, it's what the people would want.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 2 months ago

Putin really doing a lot to erode any chance Russia ever controls Kursk again

[–] [email protected] 47 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I'd love to hear whose fucking fault it was then. Someone's gotta go out of a 8th floor window next week

[–] [email protected] 28 points 2 months ago

I mean, it's clearly Ukraine's fault. They invaded, whose else's fault could be?

If Ukraine didn't invade, would those territories be occupied by Ukraine?

There, your answer.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 2 months ago (1 children)

And if it was, I didn't mean it

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

And if I did mean it, you deserved it

[–] [email protected] 108 points 2 months ago

Then why do they need to be ruled by Moscow?