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[–] [email protected] 66 points 3 months ago (6 children)

We use Teflon-coated cookingwear even though we know it's poison.
Yes, yes, I know, technically it's not a problem if you don't scratch or over-heat it. But in my experience, 99% of non-stick pans get scratched and over-heated.

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 3 months ago (2 children)

You say this like we don't still have kitchenware with lead (or other nasties like cadmium) in them, often for purely aesthetic reasons. Most of these are discontinued products still in circulation, but some are still being produced (in theory they're "safe for use" because the heavy metals are sealed behind something nontoxic, but scratches and chips may expose them).

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 months ago (1 children)

AESTHETIC reasons?? girl lead poisoning isn't worth a pretty pot.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (5 children)

Everyone makes fun of California's prop 65 warnings, but this is exactly the situation they exist for: knowing which colorful plate sets to avoid at Crate & Barrel.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 months ago

Except the law was really poorly worded with no downside for false reporting. As a result literally everything has the label on it, up to and including a generic message at the front doors of the store telling you that going in the building will cause cancer and reproductive harm.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago

But it doesn't work when every manufacturer puts those stickers on literally everything just in case.

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Also, a lot of nonstick pan coatings are incredibly shortlived and end up in your food if you continue to use a scrarched pan.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 3 months ago (5 children)

I will never use Teflon again. Even using it correctly will kill a bird in the same room. Canary in a coal mine. I won't touch the stuff. Stainless steel or cast iron.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 months ago (3 children)

PTFE is still allowed and can kill birds from the fumes.

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I bought a nonstick wok and my friends kept using steel wool and chipping it and I kept freaking out on them about it. I'm like STOP IT, I'd rather it be dirty than this!

They used to make fun of me freaking out about it.

I feel a bit vindicated with my freak outs now.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 months ago

My family (parents etc) have mostly learned their lesson now after all the news coverage, but before that I used to resort to hiding my good non sticks whenever they were staying over. If my parents complained about the shitty old pans that were available, then I pulled out my very sticky nonstick ceramic pan that they had roughed up despite my protests. I'm never throwing that shitty ceramic pan away, it's way too effective as a rhetorical ploy now.

Friends I still mostly don't trust since I don't know their kitchen habits well enough, but they're less likely to try to help with cooking anyhow, only with dish washing and there it's easy to hide the wrong sponges.

If your chipped nonstick is teflon, then it's garbage now imo. I would never cook in it again, too risky imo.

And I now realize that I've become paranoid in my own kitchen.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 3 months ago (1 children)

You should have thrown it away after the first chip. Anyone reading this, THROW AWAY your chipped Teflon!! Replace with cast iron

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[–] [email protected] 70 points 3 months ago (3 children)

We also put lead in gasoline knowing damn well it would come out the tail pipes and people on the streets would have to breathe it. Several decades of leaded gasoline passed until someone developed an alternative to fix engine knocks. If that had never been invented we would still be pumping lead into our streets today as a "cost of life" or more realistically, a cost of doing business.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Cars still offgas other heavy metals (arsenic, cadmium, chromium, nickel), and rhe wear from their tires also distributes heavy metals. Tractors do the same in our fields and have for decades. It's not good. Instead of developing drones for the military, we should develop them for our food supply first.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago

The industrial revolution and it's consequences

[–] [email protected] 27 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Piston aircraft still use it. Which makes it doubly annoying when some tit in a cesna decides to circle around town at 1000'.
Not just making a noise, also cropdusting with TEL.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 months ago

Luckily that is beginning to change. But it is crazy that it has taken so long to do.

There seems to be two octane ratings that now have an unleaded replacement. (I don't know how many there actually are in use.)

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[–] [email protected] -5 points 3 months ago (6 children)

Well you know. One is WAY worse. Like we still have not found that much proof of plastic being very bad

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Lead is more dangerous to humans. Plastic is worse for the planet

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

There aren't any islands of lead in the ocean, and lead items aren't single-use. Yes yes, both are bad, but one is obviously worse.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

micro-plastics in the brain

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago (2 children)

What the fuck are you on, it's already done untold damage to our ecosystems

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Someone correct me if I'm remembering this incorrectly but I do remember seeing a article explaining how we have discovered that plastic has been making men infertile due to the male body collecting micro plastics in the balls to the point that if not stopped in time the plastic will start killing sperms and making the man sterile Edit I think I found the video that informed me https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=IoH41Qzv__0 Upon searching I've found a lot of the sources claiming that there is a correlation between plastic count and sperm count seems to be coming from India which is odd but yet again if you want to study people surrounded by garbage India is the place to get a large sample size but I've also found some sources saying that plastic is more specifically affecting hormone production https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LXq1Sm95GlQ&pp=ygUYcGxhc3RpY3Mgc3RlcmlsaXppbmcgbWVu

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[–] [email protected] -1 points 3 months ago

People downvoting this comment are just mad that you're right.

[–] [email protected] 58 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Me using my scratched teflon pans.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

😏 be like me and use a cast iron skillet that weighs a ton, never is slick like you see on the internet, and is a removed (really Lemmy? Auto censor?? FFS) to clean

In all seriousness, I just made scrambled eggs on the ol' beast and they turned out decent. Far from non stick but it's non cancer at least.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Instances to avoid if you dislike censorship or state run propoganda:

Lemmy ml

Slrpnk net

Hexbear

Lemmygrad

Beehaw (not state run, but very "family friendly" strictness)


P.S. I've tested like 58 wizard swears over on 196 bahaj and they only censor Faggot, which is on brand.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Evidently your current instance censors that last word too.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

Nuh uh, shows up fine for me

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 3 months ago (3 children)

(really Lemmy? Auto censor?? FFS)

That's your instance, ml is a turd like that.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I have no clue how Lemmy works. I made an account and just assumed that was that.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago

I believe the ML there stands for Marxist Leninist (one of the flavors of communism)

[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 months ago (6 children)

Each 'instance' has slightly different rules that apply. Mostly it doesn't affect users, as you can interact with other instances just fine.

Lemmy.ml censors a number of common curses and is run by Uyghur genocide deniers.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Well that's unfortunate. What are more ideal instances of Lemmy? Thanks for the explanation, by the way.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Lemmy.world is currently the most popular large instance, Lemmy.today is another one. There are A LOT of instances to pick from if you'd rather connect to one closer to your region or attuned to your personal tastes, and they can all access posts from other instances so if you think an instance is run by people you can trust then feel free to make an account there.

To add onto Pug Jesus' explanation, each instance is a self-hosted server separate from all the others. That means they can potentially be removed or re-added to the fediverse at any moment, they all follow their own rules so the only fediverse-wide restrictions are that the instance isn't so insufferable that every other instance blocks them or defederates from them.

EDIT: A list of known servers HERE

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (3 children)

That's every "non-stick" pan after 1-2 months of daily use.

All non-stick, "scratch resistant" pans are a marketing gimmick designed to have the average consumer-moron buy 30 pans in their lifetime, than simply learn how to season pans properly and hand 2 or 3 Iron/steel pans down their family lineage for generations, across hundreds of years.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I don't even know what my pans are.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 months ago

Ceramic ones are a bit better but for the most part this is correct. There really isn't a clear reason not to cook with steel or iron, they tend to be the best options for 99.9% of applications. Only thing that I can think of is cooking eggs at a lower temp, but iron does that fine if the seasoning is really good.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago

My scanpan has been in use for at least 6 years unscratched

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