These monster shot in fucking public for fucking recreational purposes! That's at least a dozen laws broken, GO TO FUCKING PRISON! America is a fucking shit show!
this post was submitted on 19 Aug 2024
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The police problem is that police are policed by the police. Cops are accountable only to other cops, which is no accountability at all.
99.9999% of police brutality, corruption, and misconduct is never investigated, never punished, never makes the news, so it's not on this page.
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Cops can and do get away with lawlessness, because cops protect other cops. If they don't, they aren't cops for long.
The legal doctrine of "qualified immunity" renders police officers invulnerable to lawsuits for almost anything they do. In practice, getting past 'qualified immunity' is so unlikely, it makes headlines when it happens.
All this is a path to a police state.
In a free society, police must always be under serious and skeptical public oversight, with non-cops and non-cronies in charge, issuing genuine punishment when warranted.
Police who break the law must be prosecuted like anyone else, promptly fired if guilty, and barred from ever working in law-enforcement again.
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The proper discipline for this action is losing your job and going to jail for animal cruelty.
If you Don't Like MURDERING CATS your a LIBTARD COMMUNIST!
This kind of violence towards animals is strongly associated with psychopathy. These should really be kicked off the force and sentenced to several years in jail.
I'd prefer the be sentenced to lifelong intensive therapy for impulse control.
The problem with psychopaths is that their brains are defective. They don’t have a mental illness so they can’t be treated. They are parasites on society who feel no remorse and are only motivated by their own desires. They are not at all deterred by threat of punishment. The best you can hope for is that they channel their efforts into a productive career. But if they have violent sexual desires they really should be locked up for life.
This kind of violence towards animals is strongly associated with psychopathy
Almost everyone kills animals for pleasure, are you saying only vegans are not psychopaths?
Killing and having something killed are not the same, but carry on.
The comment I replied to asks for several years of jail for whomever kills an animal. Why should slaughterhouse workers be exempt?
Presumably for the same reason doctors carrying out MAIDs and executioners can carry out their jobs of killing people- it's state sanctioned.
That doesn’t hold up. Doctors can’t do that to non-consenting others, and executioners can’t do that to innocent others. Animals do not consent to being killed nor can they be convicted murderers.
I think the psychopathy here comes from the desire to commit this violence, the meat industry abstracts the violence away from the consumer, so I don't think the argument holds.
Which is to say vegetarianism would be more prevalent if the consumer had to hold the bolt gun themselves ( that and more people would become desensitized to this kind of animal cruelty )
However much it’s abstracted away, a slaughterhouse worker still has to slit the animals throat.
In this day and age you can just go online and see what happens in slaughterhouses and see your “food” get gassed, lobotomized, stabbed, electrocuted or boiled alive so saying it’s okay because you didn’t know is just too naïve.
Note that vegetarianism is just a diet, not a stance against the exploitation of animals. (Eg hens are killed for eggs, baby cows are killed for milk and cows are killed for leather which are all usually still eaten/used by vegetarians)
youll be pleased to know most slaughterhouses today have automated processes to kill animals
What do you base that on? Even if the gassing is automated, like for most pig slaughterhouses, the killing usually still happens by hand in all videos I’ve seen.
For sure, all very emotive arguments morally I agree with the sentiment.
My rebuttal was to you ascribing psychopathy to the general public because they eat meat, I expect you'll see a much lower than average score for empathy across slaughterhouse workers ( and probably more psychopathy as well )
Tbh, it would be interesting to see what happened to meat consumption if we introduced laws mandating abattoir imagery on meat packaging.
morally I agree with the sentiment
You should align your actions with your morals and go vegan
You assume I'm not?
Yea, since you called it vegetarianism but that might’ve been a spelling error
Fucked up but still less bad than what happens nationwide in factory farms to millions of animals per year
This has the same energy as "Oh that cop beat that black man? Well that's not as bad as all those Palestine kids being murdered by Israel."
It's not a game of what sucks worse.
If over 90% of people recognize the smaller injustice for what it is (extremely fucked up) but don't care about the larger one, then I think it's relevant to bring up, so people can see their hypocrisy
Agreed. Getting shot would almost certainly beat getting gassed or lobotomized before having your throat slit.
Sure would be a shame if someone used those cops for target practice.
The panthers took back their neighborhoods with a well organized militia. Some violence is necessary. Fear of more does most of the heavy lifting. Can't communicate unless we speak their language.
If they're violent towards animals imagine how they treat humans...
That's a feature, not a bug