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[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

"Western" from european perspective tho. This is what reactionary-only regulation and fear of everything social got you into. No clue how to get you out of this without blood shed.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Imagine being unironically anti-democracy and also claiming to be a socialist.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (9 children)

Are we talking about American Democracy, where the police have carte blanche to brutalize protesters for objecting to police brutality and a SCOTUS majority can overturn a popular election?

Or Chinese Democracy where you can be in any party you want, but only the CCP gets to hold any real power? Or the Taiwanese Parliament, where politicians form gangs that attempt to beat up each other's members?

Or Thai Democracy, where the courts are selected by the King and regularly disband majority governments for committing Lese Majesty?

Are we talking about Apartheid Israeli Democracy, where over half the population is disenfranchised for being Palestinian?

How about Iranian Democracy, where the Supreme Council gets to decide who can run for office?

Do we like the Brazilian style of Democracy, where an elected Prime Minister can be deposed by the AG and a fascist can fuck around massacring indigenous people for a Presidential term, while the former PM gets the charges dropped and has to run for his old seat?

Are we big fans of the DPRK, where a single family has dominated the federal government since the country's founding? Or are we more inclined towards the Republic of Korea, which continues to send up the children and friends of the old 1970s Dictatorship to run the country, because 90% of the economy is controlled by six billionaire families?

Like, you can't just say "anti-democracy". Cuba claims to be a democracy. Argentina claims to be a democracy. The UK claims to be a democracy. Russia claims to be a democracy. What kind of democracy are we actually against?

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (19 children)

Anarchist types prefer consensus-based decision making processes to democracy. We want the entire community to agree on a course of action, not just let 51% order 49% around.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Anarchist types and unrealistic idealism, name a more iconic duo

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 months ago

Have you ever actually tried large numbers consensus? And by large numbers I mean 15+ people. Even if everyone is committed at that point it gets really difficult

[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 months ago

There is more than one kind of socialism. And democratic socialism is a thing.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (3 children)

The consensus of the reasonable, educated, and mentally stable? Yes. The consensus of the walmart wildlife? Ehhh...

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