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Children will be taught how to spot extremist content and fake news online under planned changes to the school curriculum.

Education Secretary Bridget Phillipson said she was launching a review of the curriculum in primary and secondary schools to embed critical thinking across multiple subjects and arm children against “putrid conspiracy theories”.

Pupils might analyse newspaper articles in English lessons in a way that would help weed out fabricated clickbait from true reporting. In computer lessons, they could be taught how to spot fake news sites and maths lessons could include analysing statistics in context.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago

Remember kids: if it says China good, it's propaganda.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago (2 children)

This is actually a very minimal change to the already existing curriculum - the (compulsory) English Language GCSE is 50% "Critical reading and comprehension"

Gov UK states all specifications must include:

"identifying bias and misuse of evidence, including distinguishing between statements that are supported by evidence and those that are not; reflecting critically and evaluatively on text"

Most people presumably... "forgot"? but this has been in the curriculum for decades

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I think a lot of what people are missing is around spoken techniques.

  • Recognising ad hominem attacks.
  • Recognising straw-man arguments.
  • Recognising circular reasoning.
  • Spotting embedded assumptions or premises in points.
  • Being numerically literate enough so that big numbers have context.

Yes, these things apply to texts also, but they can fly past you when somebody is speaking. You can't take 30 seconds to notice that somebody is arguing against something which wasn't said by the opposition. It has to be a reflexive "hang on a minute! That's BS".

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago

Hugely agree, those would all be fantastic additions.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago

For me at least, most of that was just identifying rhetorical devices used by the writer and summarising what they wrote, not looking at the legitimacy of what's being said (it'd be hard to do that in an exam context anyway).

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

This is good, but they could really do with running these for older people too.

Here's one I heard this week for example:

"My friend down at the bowls club said on Facebook that they're not even real immigrants, but they're special forces soldiers from the secret UN Army and they're bringing them over here to take over the British and they've all got really good shoes and mobile phones you see, that's how you can tell and they're all of fighting age aren't they?"

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago

I guess the issue would be that they would be voluntary for older people and the type who believe those conspiracies wouldn’t think they need them.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

As always, things will focus more on vibes and credentialism than critical thinking, because conspiracy theories are a mainstay of all the 'serious' papers and conspiracy itself is just how power has functioned for the last few centuries

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

There's two kinds of conspiracies:

  1. Ultimately antisemitic nonsense

  2. Admitted to by the government thirty years after the fact

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago

right wing vs left wing conspiracies

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago

The state has zero incentive in teaching kids how to spot propaganda because the state would expose itself lol

Once peasants start using critical thinking they eventually figure out that "muhhh team right" does not serve them much.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)
  1. Avoid everything formerly called Twitter.

  2. That pretty well does it.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago

And facebook, instagram, fox news, gbnews, truthsocial

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago (3 children)

What my Dad always called "the elastic curriculum" - some politician gets a bug up their ass and demand schools teach it (eg BoJo and Latin). At least this weaves through different subjects so could be made to work. Still, it must be a bit difficult to teach critical thinking in religious schools.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago

must be a bit difficult to teach critical thinking in religious schools.

Which is why all religious schools should be banned.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago

And that’s why religious schools need to stop, and the Church of England needs to be disestablished.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago (2 children)

A bit difficult to teach critical thinking in religious schools

Religion requires you to not have critical thinking skills at all

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago

My evangelical school did a "classical education" and made the mistake of actually having some critical thinking after all the indoctrination. I'm a pagan leftist transgender homosexual now.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I went to a Catholic school - they did their level best not to avoid anything resembling it (and sex education).

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Just so I understand, the catholic school you attended did teach critical thinking and sex education?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago

Mine did, too. Hell, I had a 4th grade teacher that taught the class how to meditate during the last 5-10 minutes of class. She would turn off the lights, have us put our heads down on our desk and would put on a CD with new age bell/chime/gong meditation music, and she would talk us through guided meditations; simple visualization and relaxation. She also taught us to stand up and speak out when we saw someone doing something bad: "You are doing the wrong thing!"